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Pacquiao win stirs controversy

4th fight eyed after Filipino champ edges Juan Manuel Marquez

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NO CLOSURE YET The Philippines’ Manny Pacquiao jars Mexico’s Juan Manuel Marquez on his way to retaining his WBO welterweight title with a majority decision in their third fight in Las Vegas. AP

LAS VEGAS—Manny Pacquiao knew that to validate what he always believed in, to finally lay to rest the ghost chasing after him, he would have to pull off a definitive victory over an opponent who had troubled him the most.

But once again, Juan Manuel Marquez made life difficult for him.

On Saturday night (Sunday in Manila) at MGM Grand Garden Arena, the eight-division champion defeated his greatest nemesis yet again, but—as it always seemed when these two warriors collide—he needed to squeeze out everything he could from the rounds that mattered to earn a majority decision.

But the victory raised more questions than it answered.

Pacquiao won on the scorecards of two judges—the third judge scored the fight a draw—and when the decision was announced, a deafening chorus of boos shook the arena.

Seconds after Pacquiao’s hairline win that enabled him to keep his World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight crown, promoter Bob Arum said he was going to set up a fourth fight between the two boxers.

As he made his way through an angry crowd that shouted obscenities at him, Arum told Yahoo! Sports: “It was a great, great fight. I had Manny, but it was close, so why not bring them together in May? It makes a lot of sense to do that.”

The camp of American Floyd Mayweather Jr. had reserved MGM Grand for May 5, ostensibly for a fight with Pacquiao. On Friday, Golden Boy’s promoter Oscar De La Hoya said that fight was closer than ever.

But with Arum’s latest statement, the richest fight in history that would pit Pacquiao against Mayweather would be on hold for a while longer.

The Filipino boxer’s trainer, Freddie Roach, also said Pacquiao should fight Marquez a fourth time before climbing into the ring with the unbeaten American.

Rain of debris

“It was clear I won the fight,” Pacquiao said after struggling against Marquez. “(But) that’s boxing.”

“This was the closest they ever fought and I thought it would end in a draw,” Roach said. “But Manny won the last two rounds and I wasn’t surprised by the judges’ decision.”

The booing from the huge Mexican throng in the sellout crowd of 16,368 at the MGM Grand drowned out the on-ring interviews. As if that wasn’t enough, they pelted the ring with debris—half-empty cups of beer and ice cubes, even hitting reporters at ringside.

Security was doubled as Pacquiao made his way from the ring to his locker room, where he received 28 stitches to seal a cut above his right eye opened by a headbutt in the 10th round. Even then, some Mexican fans managed to fling projectiles at him, including a popcorn bucket that still had its contents.

“I don’t know what I have to do to win the fight,” Marquez said.

“Maybe I have to knock him out. But then, [the judges] might help him up and give him the win anyway,” the three-division champion said, speaking to reporters through an interpreter.

Marquez had taunted Pacquiao before the fight with claims that he was the true winner of their first two fights. But the latest near-miss was almost more than Marquez could stand.

“They robbed me again,” Marquez said. “It’s hard when you’re fighting your rival and three judges, too… I’m frustrated. I’m really, really frustrated.”

“I felt like I connected with a lot of solid punches in the fight,” he said. “I felt so good. I never felt his punches.”

Judge Glenn Townbridge saw it 116-112 for Pacquiao. Dave Moretti had it 115-113 for the fighting congressman from Sarangani province in Mindanao, while Robert Hoyle had it 114-114.

‘A robbery’

“This was robbery at the utmost,” Marquez’s trainer Nacho Beristain said in Spanish.

Pacquiao opened the match slowly, trying warily to find a way inside Marquez’s defense, aware of his opponent’s uncanny ability to connect with a high rate of counterpunches.

Pacquiao barely eked out an edge in the round, and it set the tone for the action-packed match.

Pacquiao later said he suffered cramps in the fourth and he felt “that my balance was gone.”

“He was flatfooted,” Roach said after his ward felt his foot arch stiffen up.

Still, the rounds swung from one side to the other and it was difficult to keep tabs on who was leading going into the homestretch.

In the final round, Beristain thought his boxer was leading while Roach felt the Filipino needed something decisive to turn the fight around.

Pacquiao responded by turning the heat in the 12th, unleashing barrages that Marquez managed to contain with strong counters and combinations. Two judges had Pacquiao winning the round, and it was their scores that saved the fight from ending in a draw.

“I really think we squeezed it out in the last two rounds,” Roach said. “Marquez fought a great fight. This was his for the taking but he didn’t grab it.”

But even as history registered this as a win for Pacquiao—adding to the similarly close split victory he scored in 2008 and the draw that kicked off their rivalry in 2004—the questions as to who is the better fighter may remain.

And until Pacquiao hammers out a definitive victory, Marquez will always claim he has the Filipino figured out.

Punch count

“It seems that way every time those two guys fight, Marquez has Manny’s number,” Roach said.

But even as the screams of protests refused to die down long after the crowd had moved to MGM Grand’s casino floors—Arum claimed Mexican fans were ready to “lynch” him—those who had Pacquiao the winner found an ally in CompuBox, the machine that tabulates the number of punches a fighter throws during a match.

Pacquiao threw 578 punches, landing 176 for a 30 percent accuracy clip. Marquez unleashed 436, connecting on 138 (32 percent). Marquez’s misses came mostly in the late stretches on the fight, after Roach had implored Pacquiao to step it up.

Pacquiao threw 304 jabs—several times during the match he tried to throw off Marquez’s counterpunch timing with double jabs—and managed to land 59 (19 percent). Marquez made 38 out of 182 for a 21 percent rate.

Even with Marquez’s right hooks landing cleanly, it was Pacquiao who made more power shots, rocking his Mexican foe with 117 hits out of 274 attempts. Marquez swung 254 power punches and made 100.

On the average, Pacquiao landed 14 out of 49 punches per round while Marquez hit 11 of 36.

Those statistics were not enough to convince Team Marquez, or the noisy throng that kept chanting his name outside the press conference area.

Not that Pacquiao was affected.

“I understand the crowd,” he said. “Half of the crowd was Mexican and half was Filipino. The Filipinos were happy with the decision but the Mexicans were disappointed. That’s part of the game.”

Marquez felt that the audience response was tantamount to his coronation.

“The audience is the best judge and they felt I won,” he said. “This (victory) was even clearer than the previous one.”

A definitive victory on Saturday night would have allowed Pacquiao to finally dispose of Marquez’s whining and enable him to deal with just one question next year: Who is the world’s true pound-for-pound king, the Filipino ring icon or the undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

Handlers of both camps showed optimism in the past week that the megabuck fight could finally be signed for next year.

But now, Pacquiao may still have to answer questions as to whether he can finally resolve the Marquez dilemma.

“(Pacquiao-Marquez 4) is a fight I wouldn’t want to do but might have to,” Roach admitted. “I have to prepare him better next time.”

Ready for rematch

Arum is not convinced Marquez will retire. Roach thinks he shouldn’t.

“Marquez deserves a rematch,” Roach said.

“If the fighters are willing, the promoters will promote it,” Arum said.

One side in the equation is more than willing.

“I want to give him a rematch,” Pacquiao said. “If we can work it out for May, we would do it.”

That pushes any negotiations with Mayweather back even more, although experts believe the American, who routed Marquez in a shutout when they squared off in 2009, might now be interested in getting into the ring with Pacquiao after watching him struggle Saturday night. With a report from AFP

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  • Anonymous

    haha maquez is really a clown. their 2nd fight happened only in 2007 instead of earlier, marquez delayed it for he was demanding that he should get the bigger slice of the pie because he thought he was more popular. but now what!? he agreed to have just 1/4 of the pie. he now is eating his arrogance hehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SFY4Q6R2K5YUZEXXIJO3TLG2UM Aspo resurrection

    there is no such an award for being the “MOST DEFNSIVE BOXER”…all he should do was to attack Manny,he should be the aggressor since he is the challenger…too bad out of 3 judges none gave him a favorable score enough to complain…one gave him a draw but that doesn’t mean he is winning for god sake.Marquez character and his younger bro are one…complain and complain when they lost a fight.

  • http://pinoy-politics.blogspot.com Monsi Serrano

    Manny ought to dispute the doubt in the minds of the people, even us Filipinos. It was not a convincing win that we expected from him since he kept telling that he will knock Marquez down. Manny looked distracted and it seems the instruction of Roach didn’t sink into his mind. Of course, the Epal Buboy Fernandez was trying to give instruction too by sticking his face close to you so that when the camera pans, he will be seen.

    Next time, I suggest that Manny listen only to Roach, because too many cooks spoiled the broth. And it almost spoiled out brought. Another fight will be a good idea. But Marquez is also a good fighter and he earned the respect of Manny. Knock him out Manny next time.

    By the way, don’t bring along Jinky in the fight —- she’s a JINX. Your lucky charm is Nanay Dionisia whose pure her and simplicity still there despite your success and popularity! Nanay Dionisia prays that you win and will not be hurt, while Jinxky pray that you win so she will have a lot of money. Look at her, she just displays her new disgusting look, modeling for Belo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L42UXKE3IUMIQCUU3F3LGGN3EM julius Roma

    kung nakita niyo mukha ni manny at the end of the fight, he was more relieved than confident of winning.  honestly, i think marquez fought with more heart.

  • Anonymous

    MAHIRAP talaga pag nawala ang focus.
    MAHIRAP ang maging Boxer, Congressman na, Singer at Artista pa.
    For even a champion like Manny—he too have limitations.

  • Anonymous

    agree
    i saw him turning his head twice in the middle of the fight. moreover, he failed to follow up some of his punches.
    distracted nga sia
    Manny was aggressive, but can’t come close enough to unless his fearsome southpaw.
    sa pananaw ko, draw ang laban

  • Anonymous

    Sa dinami-dami ng haka-haka, baliktaktakan at hiyawan, magbakbakan sila muli ng magkasaraduhan na!

    Manny, kelangan mong ayusin ang counterpunching di lang ke Juan kundi ke Jinkee din lalong lalo na yung mga araw bago umayak sa argolya!!!

  • Anonymous

    Clearly, no one will stop 2012 best business (100 mdls), Paquiao vs Mayweather, including a clear defeat. 

  • Anonymous

    Clearly, no one will stop 2012 best business (100 mdls), Paquiao vs Mayweather, including a clear defeat. 

  • Anonymous

    in manny’s next fight, he will be praying differently na, “Sana ‘wag akong masaktan, di na bale ang kalaban ko”, hehehehe.  but let us not judge him harshly, he’s only human.  after all, that was his own life on the line, not ours, for glory and….. big $$$.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JVS2BC6VTCMQ6LOOGAXO5SS7SM Denise Santos

    na-intriga ako sa kung anong iniisip ni manny habang ini-interview siya.  sa tanong kung bibigyan niya si marquez ng rematch, ang sagot niya e “i will leeb eet to da promoters”.  at nung si bob arum naman, nagpo-promote ng pacquiao-marquez IV, dun lang si manny tahimik at parang malalim ang isip.  parang hindi masaya.  parang di kumbinsi na nanalo siya.  curious lang naman.  what was it, mr congressman? lieutenant colonel, sir?

  • Anonymous

    OH, Marquez, you’re a typical sore looser.

  • Anonymous

    “I have to prepare him better next time.”

    sa tatlong laban nila makikita na si marquez ay KONTRA-FELLOW ni pacman.

    kahit ano pang preparation ang gawin nila hirap sila sa stilo ni marquez

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2U2TXFFQ34KCQFD6AI754ILM5E Raymond Estil

    i was shocked when i heared the scorecard,

    I realized that there is too much I dont know about boxing..
    in my opinion pacman lose but those three gentlemen sure know what they’re doing.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t argue with this reporter. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MDOEHEMLNVSTET7ZCS2MKQ7WRI Flavio

    to those who know boxing, pacquiao won . ask the HBO guys. in a championship fight, the challenger needs to be agressive. marquez was not. he and his trainer were too content to counter punched. that ain’t the way to wrest the crown fr the champ !

  • Anonymous

    Haluan ba naman ng propaganda na “PACQUIAO FOR PRESIDENT?”, kaya ayun, pati sya doubtful sa kanyang pagka-panalo.

  • Anonymous

    The same reason why I watch Olympics (world class and you gotta beat everybodyt all at the same time) more than a sports that involves too much money and politicians.

  • http://twitter.com/MarLouWang Marlou Wang

    AYON NAMAN PALA, E! PAYAG SI MANNY NG REMATCH SA MAY 2012. ANO PA ANG DINADAKDAK  NIYO!?!

  • http://twitter.com/hekhel Anita Miranda

    We cannot contest the judgest; am pretty sure they were expert in their job; we just admit & respect the result that Pacquiao is the Winner; Congrat’s Manny !!!

  • Anonymous

    It was obvious Pacquiao retained the title, the Mexican challenger landed the most heavier punches. I watched the whole fight on my big screen TV. by carefully analyzing the round by round finality of the fight, my personal observation, Marquez clearly demonstrated that he can land heavier punches. Truly, Pacquiao was a fighter, but, his southpaw awkward style of boxing did not deliver anything extra ordinary. My opinion, Marquez win the fight by points. My personal advice to Manny! Retire now while you are still ahead of the ball game. The fourth fight could be devastating. There are some disappointments from the crowd at the MGM last night, but you need not to prove anything. I admire your talent in boxing. RETIRE Manny, RETIRE…          

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RLHE4BNL3PDX4H43OSDRWBUCUM Judge

    Kahit ano pang sabihin nyo, nanalo pa rin c Manny Pacquiao. Di naman kailangan i knock-out ang kalaban para manalo. Tumagal ng 12 rounds ang laban, kaya kailangang magdesisyon ang tatlong judges. Pumabor naman sa atin.ang desisyon. Nanalo c Manny. Dapat wala ng rematch sa susunod. Talunan c Marquez. Di nga siya marunong tumanggap ng pagkatalo. Mabuhay ka, Manny.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SSAMJ5BV7TIA5BHIOGK7K6HKEM applepie

    You are Wrong Flavio!! You dont know the scoring system in Boxing. How dare you!!

  • Anonymous

    If Pacquiao can’t solve a small problem (that is Marquez) in an arena where he is supposed to be the pound-for-pound best and considered an all-time great, how could Pacquiao and all pactards still insist that Pacquiao can offer solutions to the monumental problems of this country of 100 million people? I’m still a fan of Pacquiao the boxer though, but I’ve been critical of Pacquiao’s self-destructing messianic complex. His delusion is shared by equally delusional pactards who think (do they think?) that the boxer who can’t put away Marquez decisively can wash away the country’s problems by being a pious-preacher pretender, prayerful, proselytizing poker-playing president.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MDOEHEMLNVSTET7ZCS2MKQ7WRI Flavio

    marquez delivered the heavier punches ? you don’t know what you are talking about !!  just look at the faces of the 2 boxers and you will know who’s face received the heavier blows….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    si pacquiao ang champion challenger lang si marquez. para manalo si marquez dapat sya ang umaatake lagi para ma convince ang mga judges na ibigay sa kanya ang panalo. sa boxing pag close ang fight most of the time ibinibigay ng judges ang panalo sa champion dahil di sapat ang efforts ng challenger to earn the belt.

  • Anonymous

    I will not even buy the pay per view for the next fight. It will just be a waste of money if Pacquiao will do the same style of fighting (if there was one) again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SSAMJ5BV7TIA5BHIOGK7K6HKEM applepie

    Weh!!!! Di ako Bilib sa pagkapanalo! alam ni Pacquiao yan at ng trainer nya at promoter bakit sang ayun sila sa rematch? ibig sabihin di sila kumbinsido sa pagkapanalo, 2nd gusto lang nila tayung kwartahan ulit. if Pacquiao is really for the MASA dapat libre na ang pay per view sa rematch nila. si Nanay Dionisia na lang ang kakanta ng National athem.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez, why are you whining? You keep on whining you are the challenger and you couldn’t even knock Pacquaio out? 

  • Anonymous

    This is Las Vegas. If Manny lost last night, there will no more money making for the gamblers here, so the judges have to give the fight to Manny so there will be rematch or Gayweather next time. Pera pera lang yan. Waste of time andf money to watch the fight last night. Manny did not prove anything.

  • Anonymous

    San naman kinuha ng mga kurakot na politiko mga pinamasahe nila at pinanghotel para lang manood ng laban? Dapat bawal magbiyahe mga politiko sa mga ganyang laban para di sila nagnanakaw ng kaban ng bayan.

  • Anonymous

    HBO is just there for the money.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the number of punches that landed which is the bases of why Pacquaio WON. Just look at the statistics. The only thing that Marquez could have done to prove to the world that he won is for him to knock Pacquaio out — AND HE DIDN’T. SO he needs to either put up or SHUT UP. HE IS THE BIGGEST WHINER IN BOXING HISTORY!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SSAMJ5BV7TIA5BHIOGK7K6HKEM applepie

    I am trying still to believe how Pacquiao won..

  • Anonymous

    Face it, you cannot knock everybody out to win. HE IS THE DEFENDER OF THE TITLE. THE CHALLENGER NEEDS TO PROVE IT BY KNOCK OUT WIN —  AND HE DIDN’T. HE JUST WHINES AND HONESTLY, AN ARROGANT BOXER!

  • Anonymous

    Puso mo pre.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    “I don’t know what I have to do to win the fight,” Marquez said.simple knock out pacquiao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    well the reason behind his whining is bigtime money

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    clearly it is a close fight no question about it. marquez landed big shots and so is pacquiao. in the end of a close fight most of the time judges will side with the defending champion because the efforts of the challenger is not enough to earn him  the belt. 
    masyado lang kasing mataas ang expectation natin kay pacquiao kaya di tayo kumbinsido sa panalo nya.

  • Anonymous

    …i don’t know if u guys saw it…but I actually saw pacquiao wink at roach during the fight…as if telling him “i will not beat marquez hard enough…so floyd won’t get that scared to fight me May 5…when that comes..of course I will beat him (floyd) up badly…to seal his loud mouth forever!”… cheers!!!

  • Anonymous

    Para na itong WWF, Arum was already prepared for a rematch and this is the outcome that he really wanted.. i dont want to believe that this was scripted(to have a close battle), but, im rest assured, Pacman won, try scoring it yourself and when in doubt who won the round give it to pacquiao since he is the champ and he should be on the defense..para na rin itong tower defense, pac only has to defend the tower

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NJNBBSXXOPBBZSJAB2OKPCUBVQ Andal AmpatuanJR

    Sssshhh.
    Obviously Pacman was WEAK becoz he sneaked out to BED a woman everynight b4 Jinky arrived…
    and that poor performance was the result.

    That’s why Roach reprimanded him tremendously after the fight (coming from VERY reliable source
    in Vegas). Nevertheless, a fight on May 2012 cud generate MORE revenues and higher paycheck for Pacman…really a smart move huh?

    Such a strategy can also bait Mayweather to come out of his hiding and grant Pacman a fight AFTER he really lambasts Marquez on the 4th fight…VERY very clever Pacman! kudos 2U!

  • Anonymous

    It was close all right. I agree 100% Marquez deserves a rematch. But one thing is clear Marquez does not have a punch that could put Manny down or let alone, knock him out. Kinapos din si Marquez na patunayang panalo talaga siya dahil nagkulang siya sa sa pagiging mas agresibo. Stats showed Manny landed more shots than him. 

  • Anonymous

    Some judges give credit for the fighter who shows more aggressiveness and effective punches. Based on the judgements of most sports analysts, Pacquiao won although very close. Next time they meet, Marquez has to knockout Pacquiao to remove all doubts. But easy to say hard to do.

  • Anonymous

    A fighter wins when he’s got FOCUS. Want a decisive win MP? Focus on harnessing your gift (boxing) & set aside politics & entertainment. Pls. always remember your humble beginnings & remember you can’t always have everything in this life despite what the opportunists surrounding you will say.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    Gusto ko kapag naging Pacquiao vs. Marquez -IV, ay walang mga babae na bubuwisit sa buhay ng mga lalaki. Tingnan mo itong si Pepeng Agimat babae rin ang dahilan!  Even in the Holy Bible babae rin and dahilan ng downfall ng isang lalaki.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez, Biristain, and their fans can shout until their nose bleeds, but the 3 judges had spoken – Pacquiao won by UD.  It was a close fight alright and Manny admittedly won by a hairline.  But boxing like any other sport, somebody won and in this case not only by split by unanimous decision. 

    Everybody would most likely agree that the final outcome of last night’s square-off was somehow swayed by the prospect of an upcoming lucrative fight between Manny and Floydie Jr May next year, where both camps stand to earn oodles of moolahs and therefore ‘everybody happy’ including all those involved in making this bout to happen.  This much awaited encounter between this two warriors will be indeed a huge boost to the not-so-rosy economy of Las Vegas and to the professional boxing as a sport.

  • Anonymous

    Arum is the true godfather pulling strings

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    Ito namang si Manuel Marquez in their previous fights, ilang beses na siyang pinabagsak ni Manny Pacquiao sa ring he still gets up and declared himself as the winner.  Wala pa akong alam na Filipino na ganito ka tigas ang ulo.  I’m glad na Mexican s’ya. Like what Johnny Depp said to Danny Trijo in the movie ‘Once Upon a Time in Mexico’ are a Mexican or a Mexican’t?  This marquez guy is obviously a Mexican’t.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome home ‘General’ Money da Pacman Pacquiao! This new promotion is in the bag Sir.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B4MBRVJZATMEDZ4JQNTPBZCESY Joey

    The Judges has the final say, they are licensed by the Nevada State sports commission and experts in judging professional boxing fights. Now, ano naman ang mga credibilidad ng mga kabayan daw nating announcer na si Ronnie Natanielz (na wala namang dugong pinoy) at tolentino (nagpapanggap na expert daw siya sa boxing) na in their “professional opinion” panalo daw si Marquez? Itong dalawang ito ang dapat questionin ang Kredibilidad. 

  • http://twitter.com/lcpbeto Albert Bernal

    Hola desde Mexico (Greetings from Mexico)

    Pacquiao is the greatest. But he lost this fight, and everybody knows that.

    Que chinguen a su madre los jueces.  Judges go and “luck” yourselves. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    All this thread shows is how many Filipinos who know next to nothing about boxing suddenly decide they’re experts after watching a few Pacquiao fights.

    From the people who think you need to knock someone out to win a title to the people who have apparently heard of how bad the judging in boxing is to the guy who said that Pacquiao’s ‘southpaw awkward style of boxing’ isn’t effective, some of the comments on here are just amazingly ignorant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N72S46ED6H3Q3P3VJUKOXTZYQI jessica

    Yes according with the statistics Pacquiao trow and land more punches than Marquez, but statistics can be make up, and according to this TRUE FACT we have to relay in what we saw, and Marquez clearly won over Pacquiao

  • Anonymous

    One factor for the last night’s lackluster fight was Marquez’, the challenger, counter-punching boxing-style.  Most of the time it was Manny, the defending champion, was the one who initiated the attack.

    Still it was ‘fiesta time’. The $64.95 ppv buy was nothing compared to the fun when friends and ‘kasimanwas’ get-together to partake the food and booze. 
      

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N72S46ED6H3Q3P3VJUKOXTZYQI jessica

    Yes according with the statistics Pacquiao trow and land more punches
    than Marquez, but statistics can be make up, and according to this TRUE
    FACT we have to relay in what we saw, and Marquez clearly won over
    Pacquiao

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EXFI4EUGM23PQ4FMQKLVH36OXI Jose

    Hah, this should end well.

    Fight was close, and could’ve gone either way, but yeah, I’d have scored it for Marquez.  I’m a Pacquiao fan though, so I’m happy anyway. Respect to Dinamita though. Didn’t think he’d be so good at this weight, but his performance was a masterpiece.

    Fantastic fight. Pac is Pac, and Marquez is a legit legend. Great stuff.

    And I have no idea what the judge who scored it 116-112 was smoking, but I want some of that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V3D4S7O6DRLOKFRZVQI663OJVM Mariano

    Mr. Emmanuel Pacquiao it’s the beginning of your end.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2SPYLTXV54PKUKX5O2IEU7GYFQ robert

    Pera pera lang yan , na Mafia si Marquez papayag ba naman ang Casino na matalo ng milyones!  $100 win $700 if you bet on Marquez. wow! one of the judges is a member of Mafiosi.

  • http://twitter.com/jigreats ji

    judges scored win for pacman but the paying public thought the other way, it is not a robbery but it is a conspiracy. 22 million or so or maybe 30 million comes May, right bob arum? anyway the way Pacman fought last night, he would not stand a chance to beat Gayweather,  it is so frustrating…

  • Anonymous

    Kung si Marquez ang nanalo, palagay ko walang maririnig na reklamo kay Pacman. Very gentleman with good sportsmanship siya. Pero nang kinakanta ang mga national anthem, napuri ko si Marquez. Naka-stand still siya at kumakanta pa. Which I am sure is what you do while the anthems are sung. What’s the point of singing the national anthem of a fighter if he does not even pay attention to it? It is sung because of him, for crying out loud!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    iha siguro panoorin mo ulit ang replay at bilangin mo maigi ang mga punches…isama mo dito yong mga connected jabs ni Paquiao na di halos napapansin ng mga nanonood kasi ang visible lang sa mga mata nila ay yong mga clean shots na madaling makita ng nanonood..okay?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    It is not Pacquiao’s fault if the match was close and the referees favor him.  What is important that neither of the fighters fought for money but to prove who was the best. The only sad thing about Marquez was he could not accept defeat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    iha panoorin mo kaya ulit ang replay para mabilang mo maigi ang mga punches nila…isama mo kaya ang mga spontaneous landed jabs ni Paquiao na di napapansin ng mga viewers kasi ang visible lang sa kanila ay yong mga clear shots lang…okay? The bottom line is…walang bumagsak sa kanila…kung talagang malakas si Marquez dapat ang mga suntok niya ay knockout punch..ni hindi nga natinag si Paquiao eh…sa mukha nga nila parang mas lamog pa nga kay Marquez..see it for yourself.

  • talisman torns

    I do believe in what manny told after his interview that he knew he won the fight but one thing is clear for the next fight if ever there will be rematch… Manny needs to be focused next time….

  • http://twitter.com/jigreats ji

    do you think pacman proved he is the best? come on, a fight as close as this who would not whine? suklian ka nga na kulang ng singko aangal ka, karangalan mo pa kaya? just respect marquez opinion since he is not alone…pakibasa ang mga agam agam ng mga kapwa nating pinoy kahit gaano kami ka-die hard fan ni pacman and by the way, next time dapat ipakita ni pacman na alam nyang kumanta ng pambansang  awit ng Pilipinas, pambansang kamao pa naman siya!

  • Anonymous

    marquez is a good fighter but the way he fight is not a best fighter at all times,, he always backing down he waiting he never do something to change the fight, i’m never see him going forward to make toe to toe for pacquiao. . A TRUE WARRIORS NEVER BACK OFF NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN, that what pacquioa’s do aggressiveness why pacquiao won this fight. if the rematch happen again and the same thing what marquez doing he never win to pacquiao. MARQUEZ change ur style move forward don’t wait pacquiao, do something new KNOCK HIM OUT TO PROVE THE WORD 100% you won. that’s the only way..

  • lucidlynx

    are you implying the nevada boxing commission is also part of the conspiracy so that there will be a fourth meeting? and not only that, marquez has to be in it too. besides, there is a return match clause in the contract. if marquez won, he is obligated to a fourth rematch. pacquiao does not have to win to guarantee a rematch. and he still has his $22 million, win or lose.

    mahirap ang mga conspiracy theories na walang proof at base lang sa haka-haka.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    sa mga nagdududa sa result..panoorin niyo na lang ulit ang replay para mabilang niyo maigi ang mga punches nila dahil wala namang na-knockout…isama niyo mga quick spontaneous landed jabs ni Paquiao na di napapansin ng mga viewers kasi ang visible lang sa kanila ay yong mga clear shots lang. The bottom line is…walang bumagsak sa kanila…kung talagang malakas si Marquez dapat ang mga suntok niya ay knockout punch..ni hindi nga natinag si Paquiao eh…sa mukha nga nila parang mas lamog pa nga kay Marquez at the end of the fight sa dami ng suntok na natanggap niya..see it for yourself.

  • http://twitter.com/jigreats ji

    that is why it is called conspiracy theory, you will either believe it or not. it could be hard to swallow but it depends on how an individual would digest it.  

  • http://twitter.com/jigreats ji

    boxing is not just a game of strenght but it is also a game of wit, so don’t blame marquez for his tactics

  • Anonymous

    Nakakatawa ano…isang boxer na  nag aantay lang ng kalaban na sugurin sya at mag counter punches hanggang 12 rounds..pagkatapos sasabihin  nya sa buong mundo na panalo sya.Siguro itong si marquez nasisiraan na ata ng ulo dahil di nya matalo talo si Pacquiao.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, dapat di yan pinapakita sa tv si jinky, she looks disgusting, parang si belo na matrona feeling hard magpaganda.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    a boxing is just like any other game…i.e. basketball & others, ang labanan shoots etc…ang sa boxing punches..ang diperensiya lamang pagkashoot reflected sa visible scoreboard..ang sa boxing pagka-punch reflected sa judges scorecard not visible to audience. Ang tanong…who has more experience and who can provide a reliable score…the licensed judges or the viewing public which is very far from the subject?
    Buti na lang may compuBox to prove them right.

  • Anonymous

    Ikaw siguro sira ulo, kitang kita naman nabugbug si pacquiao kaya dapat lang na isipin nya na siya ang nanalo.. Nakita mo ba si pacquiao nong ininterview, halos walang masabi kasi alam nya na talo siya ni marquez.. Dapat next time na maglaban sila, 5m ni pacqiao at 20m kay marquez kasi puro mexicano naman ang bumili ng tiket para manood, tayong mga pinoy nakikisalo lang.

  • Anonymous

    we back at the time that this 2 warriors in boxing meet in the ring, do you thing the tactics of marquez convince the word that he is the best? i believe the power of marquez but he never knock out pacquiao for waiting and counter punching, for the 3rd time they meet again same result,,, if the rematch happen again and what marquez do in the previous fight with pacquiao i believe the result will favor to paquiao.. the only way marquez do to prove that he won the fight aggressiveness and K.O paquiao.

  • Anonymous

    Boxing judges have been around for years….can’t like them when you win then blame them when you lose…..

  • Anonymous

    Pacquiao,,do not do the mistake like many others, stop now,, you do not need to prove any more,,stay on top and stop,,take care your country now

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    Accept the facts you filipino indiots!!! that you’re short changed by Pacman(similar to politician move to deliver projects with less quality but more on pockets!!)
    Filipinos were dismayed on the results expecting your champion as a brawler that will knock his opponent!! but he shown in this fight  not  a macho brawler but a coward afraid to be hit by his opponent marquez who has a new style!!
    Pacman is just a winner in this case thru bob arum syndicate!!Thats las vegas nevada decision were mafia style dominates!! If thers is only one EU boxing judge it should have been different decision!!
    Pacman is sure winner but a big loser!!
    Marquez is the champion in this fight!!
    But filipinos indiots thinks the otherway around, an idolistic brawling attitude for a no brain society!!
    ha! ha! ha!

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations to Bob Arum, His Company and The Judges, you clearly won!!!

  • Anonymous

    no need to insult the whole Filipino race….you look like the idiot now.

  • Anonymous

    Arum and the Jewish boxing cartel will make more money on Paquiao in the long run. This has nothing to do with the excellent bout we just  witnessed. My hats off the the 2 for giving it all in an magnificent match!!!Unfortunately for Marquez, he can not be no where near as Pacquiao could be in the next 2-3 years. His time is finished. This final decision on the match was a business decision rather than a fair and objective one. Jews are well know for their shrewdness and savvy on the business field and boxing promotion is no exception. Remember, there are no money earners and money makers anymore in boxing, except Pacquiao and Mayweather, who Arum, who would sell his soul to Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, to get a match between the 2.For Manny and everyone else, its all about the money. Pacquiao is the best fighter we have ever seen and will see for a very long time.Too bad that the business side of the sport is ruining their blood, sweat and tears…But I will tell you who will be happy for this win….Annabelle Rama…She follows Jinky Pacquiao and Mommy D (who chose to stay in GenSan) around selling them overpriced Class A jewelry. At least she will get the business from the Pacquiaos. As I said, its all about the money and not about Manny…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    sa mga boxing fans…agree ba kayo na may mga punches si Manny Pacquiao na di nakikita ng visible eye..nakikita lamang ito pag replay sa slowmo dahil sa bilis?  

  • Anonymous

    You’re the numero uno “Indiots” as what you said, look at the mirror and hear yourself he he.

  • http://twitter.com/jonting Johnny Ting

    Pacquiao won by a bob arum ‘dagdag bawas’ decision.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps this time Mayweather will now agree to fight Pacquiao after the latter’s most dismal performance in his otherwise sterling career. Personally, I believe yesterday’s fight between Pacman and El Dinamita was a draw at the most. Until now, I didn’t realize that Manny could also be a boring fighter sometimes sorry to say. If ever he and Mayweather get to tangle in the ring hopefully late next year, i.e., before or after the Pacquiao-Marquez 4 if it ever pushes thru, boxing fans should be prepared to be bored.  After yesterday’s disappointing ring spectacle, so many people like me unconvinced as to who really won the fight, Mayweather will now have the cojones to fight Pacman FINALLY. We must remember  that boxing is also called the red light district of the sports world,  so who knows? Maybe the boring fight was intentional designed to draw the cowardly Mayweather from his boxing shell. With Bob Arum around, anything can happen.

  • Anonymous

    talagang talo. masyadong maraming distraction kay pacquiao, may KO, may showbiz, may politika. gusto pang maging presidente. pag lumaban ito kay mayweather may paglalagyan ito. pero ok lang bilyonaryo naman siya at maraming pangbelo si jinkee.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulation to both fighters.They did their best but some spectators dissatisfied and dissappointed because they did not get what they expected to end,Marquez on the floor sleeping and dreaming.

  • Anonymous

    Boxing is different from good governance or politics.  Although there may be others who can be the leader of this country, we can’t judge fitness for the office by the number of knockouts Paquiao inflicts on Marquez or disposing of Marquez as the latter vowed he would.

  • Anonymous

    Haaaayyyyyy, ilang araw pa kayang balita about Pakyaw? Kasawa na, eh always like that naman. Panalo niya, panalo rin ni Sabit Singson at iba pang buwayang politicos sa sipsip sa kanya. 

    Puro hype bago ang labanan para maraming tao magbayad, but come to think of it what does an ordinary people get out of this?

  • Anonymous

    The concluded fight left a bad taste on too many, on the other hand its a glory to celebrate among Filipinos. A victory for Pacman is a victory for his countrymen be it by a hairline decision. What matters is at the end Pacman won the fight.

    We, the viewers rooted for a decisive outcome but like the two previous fights it left us another question to be answered by another fight if ever it will materialize.

    I rooted for Marquez and the burden was on him to prove that he is better fighter. However, after all was said and done he didn’t live up to be the better fighter.

  • Anonymous

    Mayweather, come out where ever you are… don’t be scared! Your opponent will not be that hard anyway…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KI4UN6T3CKTPIPEDUE2N4XSUUQ §¶¹©Fªñët©¹¶§_!c3

    Pacquiao won by syndicated decision of Casino cartel. Marquez was robbed, like GMA did to FPJ. 

  • Anonymous

    Chavit did it!!! His experience with dagdag-bawas and association with GMA and Garci helped him win this for Pacman.

  • Anonymous

    oo nga eh… kasama pa yata si Garci among sa Judges…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    Are you from EU unokritiko? If you are, i guess your’re dreaming. How come there’s a boxing judge from EU? You don’t even come out with a champion at present. If i’m not mistaken, your boxer Hatton
    from EU is capable only up to 2 rounds of boxing if your opponent is a Filipino boxer, right?

  • Anonymous

    Pinoy nga naman, kung maka husga ng kapwa, mas mahusay pa sa referee at judges na nanduon mismo sa loob at sa gilid lamang ng ring, nanood sa 14 inch na black and white TV kung makapag comment eh daig pa yung nagpunta sa Amerika at nanood ng live, kasarap batukan neto si kabayan.

  • Anonymous

    For all Pac non-believer, please watch the replay carefully and you’ll see for yourself that it was an 8-4 in favor of the Pac. We are all got frustrated because we didn’t see a KO or bloodied face of Marquez but we shouldn’t blame our dear Manny for not satisfying our craving or wish. Cong. Manny brought pride and glory to our country than anybody else to deserve a harsh and below the belt comments. Please think twice before commenting against Ninong, he’s done his very best and surely will continue to do so for our sake.

    I salute you Sir Manny, never a doubt on your God given talent.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I do not know why people have to tie in the state of our economy to Pacquiao.

    I do not know why the poor has to be the subject vs Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao is bringing investors here especially Paris Hilton.

    Pacquiao is one of those modern philanthropists now.

    His wonder as a Filipino makes us proud, happy…even the poorest of the poor

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    you should not reply on my comment as it is intended to hit hard on filipino indiots!! I pity you fanatic!!! he!he! he!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    wow, nag-alamusal ka na tinamaan ka ng magaling! mainit ulo mo ah

  • Anonymous

    …give them a break…Pacquiao is the last of the few things …our ordinary people can be proud of…let me ask u what else can u be proud of…in this country?…unless ur a blue blood or one of the few royalties in this country…there’s not much good to talk about…let our people savor it …while it last…!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    i think you are Mexican, then if you are not and if you are pilipino, what you said about filipino idiots. it is going back to those who make curse.

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    Please be more wider in your brain!!! you should not reply on my comment as it hit hard to those people with similar indication!! This is maquez style of comments!!!
    I pity you, fanatic!!
    he! he! he!

  • Anonymous

    Ha! ha! ha!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    Pacquiao himself is not happy with the fight, and as a filipino, we too are not happy of his victory. I can say El Denamita should have won it. But the way pacquiao approached Marquez before the decision, it was the greatest site in his career. Obviously Pacquiao was angry with Marquez, but the former released his anger by going to the ring side of El Denamita and thanked and hugged them, Marquez the coaches and the staff.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    okey i will not, not to a crazy man who have no idea about the world

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    wder wider ka pang nalalaman

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    Ah i see..well unokritiko, if you’re not an EU idiot also..just don’t mind my comment. My comment is for EU idiots only who thinks like a fool!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I am so proud of Pacquiao! 

    I am so proud when he approached the side of Marquez and thanked and hugged everyone of them!

    That is victory for him!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    kumain ka muna wider wider

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I know Paqcuiao’s anger to Marquez is gone.

    But the fight is not over. It needs one more 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    To El Denamita, it was a great fight and I am proud of you as a Filipino.

    You really need a rematch

  • Anonymous

    seems like you’re not a fil. i think you are not belong here. accept the reality that pacman won…don’t say bad words if you think pacquiao is idiots take a look 1 more time the reply and how pacquiao goin forward to DO something aggressiveness, while marquez is BACKING OFF and waiting only.. who is the IDIOTS unokritiko?.. if you are NOT filipino keep your mouth closed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    Pabayaan nyo na sa unkritiko, talo yan sa pusta kaya yan nag tatalak

  • Anonymous

    What is most seen by viewers are clean punches which were landed by Marquez.  But the statistics by computer cannot lie.  Even in basketball, reviews are resorted to by the referees in the PBA, for example, if they are not sure about what to call in a recent play.  The computerized “hits” or punches landed are the ones which are counted, not only the clean punches which are shown at an angle and Pacquiao registered most of the punches landed than Marquez.  It is human to feel having won when you think you have done your best and hit your opponent, especially when you have a boisterous crowd cheering you.  All this time, Marquez felt that he had won all three meetings with Pacquiao in the ring.  And, he will never feel vindicated until he knocks Pacquiao down and win by TKO or in a referee stopped contest for the inability of Pacquiao to continue fighting.  I even felt that the judge who saw it even should have scored in favor of the Filipino.

    The challenger must clearly at least outpoint the champion if not knock him down.  This is more so if one’s style is basically counterpunching effectively.  Failing in which, the more aggressive fighter, not one who waits for the fight to be brought to him, ordinarily is given the nod of the judges who should professionally score the fight.  Marquez lost the fight and the sooner he owns up to it, the sooner he earns the respect of the boxing aficionados, mostly eager to express preference by bets or wagers.  But, such an attitude, of course, can promote succeeding fights.  So on with it in May!

    But, over the years, especially with the growing, engaging other interests spurred by money and politics (and other things besides) dividing the attention of Pacquiao, the killer instinct in him to finish off an opponent by knockout seems to have also diminished.  He thought he trained hard.  But gone is his counterpunching with barrages of lightning crisp straight, sweeping and upper cuts which, executed with eye blurring speeds, would leave the opponent slowly going down the canvas.  He seems to be content in waiting for his opponent in some cases to throw punches at him in a standing defensive position, allowing the former to score and penetrate through his raised, curled arms.  When he was younger in his boxing career, he would spring up from his defensive stance to deliver close quarter counter barrages, and not just wait for his own chance to attack.  Of course, in boxing you will get hit; but, why allow an opponent to pile up points if you can turn the opportunity to your advantage.  With lightning speed, that was how he knocked down Marquez during their previous encounters.  I think this lost “weapon” in Pacquiao’s arsenal should be activated in the upcoming fight to validate all three bouts with Marquez who has become more difficult to knock out, a more effective counterpuncher and a louder mouth.  Who won the last fight? It should have been a unanimous decision for Pacquiao — an opinion that may not be shared by Filipinos even. If they see less than a knockout, they could continue to doubt if their champion has still what it takes to demolish the likes of Mayweather, Bradley and others, dying to get a piece of Pacquiao. The past glories in the ring by the Filipino icon could be overshadowed by one stunning defeat.

  • Anonymous

    Round by round alaysis clearly shows Manny had won 7 out of 12 rounds…..he threw and landed more punches than marquez, who as a challenger should’ve been more aggressive……unanimous decision should be awarded to manny not just majority……..those local boxing analyst including that foreigner from sri lanka should change the way they measure win by manny, not just by knockout but points……which is the standard in any boxing league……

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    i think nasanay lang tayo sa dominance ni manny in the ring and the knockout of course

  • Anonymous

    “I don’t know what I need to do to change the minds of the judges,” Marquez said after the fight,,, dude you dont win championship belt waiting for the champion to come in so you could counter punch, you want the belt you come end get it, playing safe waiting for a chance to counter dont win championship belts, in a close fight the judges sure will give the fight to an aggressive fighter more so if he’s the champion.

  • Anonymous

    I think Pacquiao lost this fight. But it was close. I scored 4 clear rounds for Marquez (5-8) and the rest were divided evenly for them. Compubox does show that Pacquiao landed more punches but in pro boxing you do not score by number of punches unlike in the amateurs. Anyway I also accept that others think the Pacquiao won because the fight was close.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    ¿Está usted en México? ¿Ha tenido su desayuno todavía. Cálmate amigo

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    ¿Está usted en México? ¿Ha tenido su desayuno todavía. Cálmate amigo

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I think why Manny has not given his best was because he had personal grudge against MArquez.
    Unlike his previous opponents, he was cool, confident.

    It was anger that probably played in Pacman’s mind.

    That was why he had to go to Marquez’s ring side and released it through a brotherly hug.

    It is this great thing that evaded the eyes of a great analyst

    GREAT PACMAN.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    Creo que por qué Manny no ha dado lo mejor de su era porque tenía rencor personal contra Márquez.
    A diferencia de sus oponentes anteriores, que era fresco, confiado.

    Fue la ira que, probablemente, jugó en la mente de Pacman.

    Por eso se tuvo que ir al lado del anillo de Márquez y lo lanzó a través de un abrazo fraternal.

    Esta es la gran cosa que evadir los ojos de un gran analista

    GRAN PACMAN.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    A El Denamita, fue una gran pelea y estoy orgulloso de ti como un filipino.

    Usted realmente necesita una revancha

  • http://twitter.com/grandpaber mel bercel

    yahoo.ygu…giu, you are very right as i had the same thoughts. in addition i have also this to say….

    professional boxing is big business. it is a sport and an entertainment activity. the pacquiao-marques iii manifested profeboxing again as a big business orchestrated by gambling syndicates…..
    there is no doubt in my mind that pacquiao won the match, a win not worthy of a pound for pound king but a win none the less.. in this fight, pacquiao lost his title as pound for pound king…..
    i understand the reason for pacquiao to perform a ‘just doing enoungh’ to win the fight… first, to lure mayweather to fight him and second to condition the mind of boxing fans that a pacquiao-marques iv is worth watching just in case a pacquiao-mayweather fight is not reality…..this rationale is not for a guy i thought who is devoted public servant and presidentiable and passionate of boxing, this is a thinking of someone who is corruptible and only loves money…in short a GREED.
    if i were advising rep pacquiao, i will tell him to retire now from boxing… he has more than enough money to last four generations of his clan…he should instead prepare himself to become a better public servant by education either by self-help (with profesional tutors) or thru formal institution. a bachelor’s and master’s degree in public administration or economics or information technology, or others. this will greatly make him a very abled public servant and very presidentiable indeed. if he has the passion to improve himself to become a well prepared public servant, then there is no doubt in my mind he has the passion also to improve the lot of the filipino people….
    going back to boxing, i know the good honorable congressman loves boxing. he can perhaps schedule some exhibition matches for charity so he stays fit as a boxer. if and when mayweather ask him for a match, the boxing fans and the filipino people will surely urge him to come out of retirement as this is one awaited event in present day boxing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJNTX7T6WXPHBUXJ3COQ4V6BAE Marlyn De vera

    Marquez’ new slogan:  PACQUIAO STOLEN VICTORY NOT ONCE BUT THRICE… but in fairness to PACMAN, I agree with the judges. we won thrice.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez claimed he was robbed of his victory. The crowd believes he won. They are Mexicans and I can understand their sentiments.

    Pacman won my respect because he knew he did not have a clear and decisive victory over Marquez. However, it was a judge’s decision and everyone, including them, must respect that.

    If Marquez believes he was robbed of victory in his first two fight, what made him think he won’t be robbed the third time around? The fact that he went to the ring and fought Pacman, that alone is a contradiction of all his claims.

    Man up, Marquez. Respect the decision. It is not because of Pacman, it is because you are part of it. Question the integrity of the judges, you are questioning your own victory, your own success, and you are placing the entire boxing institution in a bad light.

    If there is any lesson to learn here, Pacman must realize that he is NOT invincible. If he loves the sport, he must put his heart on it and never meddle sport with political ambition. Instead of him being the HERO this country wants him to be, he becomes an OPPORTUNIST, a CAPITALIST.

    Pacman, you need to understand these words:

    WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN.

    The higher you go up, the harder you will fall.

    Time to separate sport and politics, ambition and dream, family and women.

    Humility can go places but reality check is something you need to do…. NOW.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I agree with you but, nobody can stop one’s passion. If it needs for him to be knocked down in the ring to think it is over, he will do it. It is not just money. He’s done the unprecedentedness in boxing history.

    And to think really, Pacquiao knows the life of a fallen fighter.

    He lived with it.

    He was a poor man.

    I can see his intelligence. He helps the poor. He ran for Congress. He has nothing to worry even in the face of defeat inside the ring.

    He knows God. He prays a lot. But to critics, yes, he is a sinner just like me and everyone of us.

  • Anonymous

    I pity you more.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    pitier

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I think he knows someday he will loose in the ring but not life.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    May judge po sa boxing pag walang tumumba. Aware ang mga boxers na pwedeng hindi nila magustuhan ang desisyon pero parte po yon ng boxing kaya wala silang magagawa dun. Ke dinaya o inimpluwensyahan ni arum ang judges wala na tayo dun. Parang ang Supreme Court pag nag desisyon kahit anong gawin natin sila pa rin ang masusunod. Ngawa lang nang ngawa ang kampo ni marquez hindi dahil nanalo sila kundi para makahirit ng rematch para bigtime payday ulit pag si pacquiao ang kalaban.
    Wag kayong magpadala sa “I was robbed.” ni marquez. Alam nating lahat na walang protesta sa boxing ang pinakinggan. Walang desisyon ng judge na nababaligtad kahit gaano pa kagarapal ang nangyari.
    kung hindi nyo po masikmura yon STAY OUT OF BOXING.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    May God bless you and the whole of your family Pacquiao. I pray in God’s name. You are already a hero to us. We are proud. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IC3LXIXDLXPN224JR6HP3PL3MQ reynaldo

    How can Marques win over Manny when he always run away  when supposedly he should be the aggressor as he was the challenger and Pacquiao is the defending champion. Even if presuming Marquez was a little ahead on points, the most he could have reached was a draw. Are you going to award the victory to a boxer who always run away from his opponent?

  • Anonymous

    I am a patriot and I really want Manny to win because it is an honor to our country.  But I have watched the last 8 fights of Pacman and this one was not his best.  He was slow and looks exhausted.  Is age catching up with him?  If I was made to judge the fight, my honest to goodness decision was, Manny lost to Marquez by a very slim margin.   My unsolicited advice to Manny?  I think it is high time you have to think of hanging your gloves while you are still up there.  You have lots of money, a beautiful wife and wonderful kids. Enjoy them and your money while you can.  Don’t be a Muhamad Ali.  

  • Anonymous

    You’re robbed once, malas lang. You’re robbed twice, sobrang malas talaga. But you’re robbed thrice…TANGA NA! Why didn’t you do something? Chase the robber and beat him to the pulp, for crying out loud. Marquez, you cry baby. As for Pacquiao complaining of cramps I think he was over-workout. He more often than not go beyond few miles of running, few more rounds of sparring, few more of every thing against the advice of his trainers. He peaked in his training maybe one week before the fight, my observation only. Anyways, congrats.  

  • Anonymous

    Let the judges decide, thats what they are there for, question them, not the boxer who won,kaso halos lahat, puro judges na, talo ba kayo?

  • Anonymous

    sa mga kapwa ko filipino..ito lng ma sasabi ko,, cguro naman naging masaya ang buong bansa since naging sikat na si pacquiao gaano ba kalakas ng sigaw natin pag nakakatama si pacquiao sa mga naging kalaban nya or di kaya ganu tayo ka saya kung napatumba nya kalaban nya at super saya natin pag nanalo sya ilang taon na tau sumusubaybay sa lahat ng laban nya at lagi nya tau pinapasaya pag my laban si manny walang crimin na nagyayari ang tahimik ng pilipinas tuwing my laban sya ANU PA BA GUSTO NATIN HINGIIN KAY PACQUIAO? for me wala na ata kc dahil sa kanya kahit boxing lng nakikilala ang pilipinas sa buong mundo dahil kay PACQUIAO kaya wag natin sya husgahan dahil sa naging performance nya ngaun tao lng naman sya di sa lahat ng oras magagawa nya ang lagi nya nagagawa sa ibabaw ng ring ang patumbahin ang kalaban.. kaya wag nyo sya pagsabihan ng masama,, isipin nyo kung panu tau naging masayang mga filipino dahil kay pacquiao  i’M very PROUD TO PACQUIAO manalo ka man or matalo PROUD sana ang bansang PILIPINAS sau.. dahil isa kang dakilang pilipino sa laranagn ng boxing. pls LIKE na lng kung totoong FILIPINO ka

  • Pablo Juan

    I’m all for Manny (of course) but this one doesnt seem like he won it.. I was watching the fight with some 50 other people and judging by the mumbling before the decision was made it seems like the majority there felt the same way.. heck we’re not boxing experts but it just doesnt seem right.  Even Roach said to Manny, after the 6th round, that they’re “behind”.. it was only in the last couple of rounds that we really saw Manny move like the Manny of old and we think, sans a knockout that will obliterate “all doubts” as he promised to do, a little bit too late.  Some people said that a challenger must give extra effort to dethrone the champ, Marquez defended himself well and landed (some think) more punches than manny..that being said, as a champ Manny (as he said pre-fight) did not really show (or unable to because Marquez reads him like a book already) the champ that he is.  Anyway, the judges have decided that Manny won and if Bob Arum, who has nothing to lose anyway, decides to have another 4th encounter so be it.. we’ll all grumble but will probably go watch it again anyway.

    Finally, at the end of the fight you can see that both fighters knew who really won.. Marquez was raising his arms and Manny was downcast.  It’s ok to lose sometimes Manny, you’ll always be our champ and we’d understand and still scream for you on all your fights until we’re hoarse.  But this fight? this fight IMHO goes to Marquez. He really had Manny figured out already.

  • Anonymous

    “I dont know what to do to win a fight”. Mr. Marquez you are a  boxer, i’m not, but the only unsolicited advice i can give to you, KNOCKOUT , not even knockdown, your opponent, and everybody will be convince you won the fight.Plain and simple,

  • Anonymous

    I pitier you more????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WEZIDAA7H326M5HKTL3HGTSF5I Frutz

    para sa lahat ng kontra sa judges score..pwede kayong gumawa ng initiative..request to WBC/WBO na yong mga laban sa Nevada ay gawing “Nevada’s Got Talent” na lang para counted ang mga judge/votes ng mga viewers…hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ITE4Z5BIUZYXI5S7Q2AKDYOM5I Budoy

    nanalo sya. who cares?  tayong mga pinoy excited masyado kahit wala naman tayong mapapala.  obvious na pinapahaba nila ang laban para lumaki ang kikitain ng promoters at fighters.  di naman maglalaban yang si Pacman at Gayweather.  Drumbeating lang yan para maexcite kaya at humila pa sila ng pera.  mahina na si Pacman.  mag retire na sya habang champion pa.  

  • Anonymous

    Maywether afraid to fight Marquez.  Pacquiao afraid 4th time with Marquez.  Pacquiao doesn’t want to be promoted from Lt Col to Private; Doctor to CNA; Congressman to barangay captain; From Hero to to nobody.

    HAWR! HAWR! HAWR! HAWR!  I hear he is gunning for Philippine preidency.  BAHAL NA KAJO MGA PINOY !!!!  PAREHO KAYO NI MANNY PACQUIAO MGA WALANG UTAK !  HAWR! HAR! HAWR!

  • Anonymous

    Wake me up already.

    Is the fight of the Congressman over? Did the Mexican feel robbed?

    Congratulations, Jinky! You won again.

    I’ll just go to the Manila welcome parade. I’ll see you & Aling Dionisia there with Chavit and that ex-Manila mayor (forgot his name).

    Got to go now…to make my placard. You’ll know it because it will say: “Manny Pacquiao for President.”
    Isn’t this cute?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    May judge po sa boxing pag walang tumumba. Aware ang mga boxers na pwedeng hindi nila magustuhan ang desisyon pero parte po yon ng boxing kaya wala silang magagawa dun. Ke dinaya o inimpluwensyahan ni arum ang judges wala na tayo dun. Parang ang Supreme Court pag nag desisyon kahit anong gawin natin sila pa rin ang masusunod. Ngawa lang nang ngawa ang kampo ni marquez hindi dahil nanalo sila kundi para makahirit ng rematch para bigtime payday ulit pag si pacquiao ang kalaban.
    Wag kayong magpadala sa “I was robbed.” ni marquez. Alam nating lahat na walang protesta sa boxing ang pinakinggan. Walang desisyon ng judge na nababaligtad kahit gaano pa kagarapal ang nangyari.
    kung hindi nyo po masikmura yon STAY OUT OF BOXING.

  • Anonymous

    what a waste of time watching these two. rather, the title should have been…

    PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ
          GULANGAN III

  • Anonymous

    why is INQUIRER wasting space with this one. wala na bang ibang balita? we have more pressing problems about the baha and the lindol and the Genelyn saga. why not focus on those more important matters to our country and our people?

    ha ha ha. . . ang sagwa pala ng mantrang ito. killjoy much!!

  • Anonymous

    puwede rin kayang texting? paramihan?

  • Anonymous

    Win or loose, guaranteed $20M si Money and what do we get? maybe lechon baboy and baka again plus music from Side A. This is a good business for Pacquiao team, promote a lousy fight as “fight of the century (Mosley, Clottey, Margarito)” kaya lang muntik na silang masilat dito. Surprisingly, Philstar saw it 115-113 for Marquez. Kudos for Philstar.

  • Anonymous

    Well, he made his money cleanly unlike a former government official and family.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMODPUD2OUIMP7HHR6H54IKS5I Roehl

    The match shred-off the cloak of invincibility of Pacquiao. He was human after all, as most of us fondly say it. I agree with the previous post in this exchanges about the “law of averages” — when you reach a certain level of achievement, it is either that you “plateau” or go down. In fairness to him, he fought courageously and refused to surrender the battle. He may have loss the fight to the eyes of many, but his drive to win did not diminish! I think he has reached the cross-road of his career, and need to think what is best for himself and his family. Pacquioa will be remembered as one the best athletes of the sport! He have made Filipinos proud and proved what hard-work and determination can do! I think he has one more fight left in him — win or lose — he should hang-up his gloves and enjoy the fruits of his labor!

  • Anonymous

    1 judge scored even, 2 judges scored win by  Pacman against Marquez, that’s the decision of the american judges who are expert in world boxing, he, he, he!  some idiots won’t agree with those experts,  but are they expert in world boxing, ha? the decision was  made in accordance with rules of their agreed boxing match, so it was a fair & just decision, ha, ha, ha! not even the camp of Marquez have the valid complaint, OK?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    morer

  • Don Dee

    Wrong. Roach was right. Manny was behind by the 6th round. But he came back dominating the last half or third of the fight. Marquez was swinging wildly in the end and was not hitting anything. On the other hand, Manny was able to tag him with a few clean punches. And remember, for rounds too close to call, judges usually give it to the AGGRESSOR (not the counter-puncher). And then there is the advantage of the champion. Challengers need to win it. Champions needs only to defend. Did Marquez do enough to take away Manny’s crown? Not even close. Manny scored more points according to compubox  (but had Manny been the challenger, with that slight advantage in points, he shouldn’t win the crown). Manny was only disappointed because again, he wasn’t able to knock Marquez out. As for Marquez, he was again happy for being able to stand toe to toe with the P4P champion for 12 rounds. But all this said, I still salute the warrior and fine boxer that is JMM. But MANNY CLEARLY WON.

  • Anonymous

    lets respect the judges’ decision

  • Anonymous

    Definitely Pacman won the game as the statistics told us so. As we expected, Marquez would question the result because as per his understanding he won the game but the game is not based on his personal opinion but on statistics. No question asked, Marquez is the “kontra pelo” of Pacquiao but his best is not as good as what he thought

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DQNFWZJHJACLFTNUDFLC5EVHGM Noli

    For me, Manny won the fight! He was not able to convince some of us but he was able to convince the judges and that is the most important. I am happy and proud of you Manny Pacquiao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHUUEZMSDKFMZLMGHAF6MUB5HI Freddie Mariano

    This fight really EXPOSED Manny Pacquiao. Marquez really has Manny’s number!  Basang-basa talaga ni Marquez ang lahat ng moves ni Manny.

    I don’t believe Manny deserves the win. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AWB7S5BD62L4DGXVVLF6HVC34Q Manuel

    question: What will you do if you were robbed thrice?
    Marquez: “I will fight pacquiao again because i want to be robbed over and over again.”
    funny isn’t it? 
    please marquez don’t be a sore loser. retire. STAY OUT OF BOXING if you felt you were being robbed over and over again.or may be marquez is just using these statements to lure pacquiao into fighting him again for a bigtime payday.

  • Don Dee

    Yes. That is the RULE. If you are unable to knock the other person out, it will be the judge’s decision. So ano ang prinopotesta ni Marquez? Was he able to knock Manny out? So tama lang ang judges ang mag decision (at hindi fans niya). Furthermore, while boxers do not get to select judges, they are given the privilege to APPROVE or DIS APPROVE the selection of a judge (usually done in pre-fight negotiations).

  • Anonymous

    That was a bait for Mayweather.
    What irked most of us who can’t watch for free in a politico sponsored stadium or subscribe to PPV was that TV station who featured it aired the fight sooooooo much delayed, flooded with ads. Are we in the Elorde era? One Mid East online media had it reported round by round as it happened. And if you were in the Middle-East, the moment Michael Buffer announced the winner, you already have the fight in DVD being sold like kamatis in the streets near major groceries.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JDEFUHPQALC72KOKWIEGEFMI4M Karlo

    mariano anu ba problema mo? wag ka mandamay ng ibang pilipino

  • Anonymous

    I am not going to say anything against your opinion, I respect that. But you know what, this fight could perhaps be rigged so that Mayweather would be able to think that he can fight Pacquiao. Or, Arum maybe pushing Pacquiao and Marquez for a rematch. Even Roach said last night that it does need to have a 4th fight between the two boxers. I could made a mistake in my comments about who landed the most heavy punch, but my opinion was, Marquez won by points last night.

  • Anonymous

    I am proud of my Kababayan Manny Pacman, but c’mon, I think its time for retirement. Even ESPN analysts say its all downhill for Manny from now on. Retire as a Champion Manny!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Hey  Manny, If  that’s  all  you  got  you  better  stay  away  from  Floyd Mayweather.   We  don’t  need  a  Congressman  with  brain  damage

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E4AX44QQZYVUY5DHVYL7ZPFMM4 Angel

    LUTO! they gave the win to pacquiao because it is good for boxing, and good for their bank accounts. fair is fair, and this decision is NOT.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez once more proved himself .  . . .  a SORE LOSER.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4D7N7JNTIWWHCBSJTI3YXPRNUU Roland Pates

    Sayang si Marquez, siya talaga ang kakontra ni Manny. Huling huli si Manny talaga. Hindi convincing ang panalo ni Manny.

  • Pinoy Ako

    talagang ganyan ang buhay… may manalo may matalo…. magaling silang pareho kaya nga sabi nimanny genius fighter si marquez. Si manny defending champ si marquez challenger kaya si marquez agresibong bawiin ang truno peru mautak din si many. Yong iniisip ng taong bayan at mga analyst na nkockdown mahirap yan. Ang alam yata ng mga nanonood ay kung may nkockdown yon ang may panalo kaya nga may mga judges at recording machine para alam kung sino ang dapat manalo.. Kayo mga kaibigan binilang nyo ba kung ilan ang suntok nga bawat isa sa kanila. Si marquez talo sa bilang ng suntok contra kay Many. Peru si marquez ay agresibo peru hindi dahil agresibo sya katulad nyo kung kunti ang suntok kay many talo sya pati pusta nyo. At yong pilipino analyst at comentatator na nagsabing hindi sya manny pacqiao kundi manny paksiw siguro talo din yon hehehe.. At may isa pang pilipino analyst na nagsabing talo si Manny siguro talo din yon sa pustahan .. hehehe.. kaya next time bro win or lose.. sa pinoy ka hindi sa ibang lahi   Magandang Gabi Bayan

  • Anonymous

    i’m having fun reading comments-for and against pacquio, writing comments as if they’re authority in boxing, debating with mr so and so that he is bohboh because of his opinion, etc., as if the future of our nation is dependent upon Mr. pacquiao’s winning or losing in boxing. Maybe mataas pa emotion ng mga bloggers dahil katatapos pa lang ng laban. sana bukas wala na ang awayan, wala namang tama or mali sa inyo. Peace. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MPRV75IYIXFWIQPBS27NYH32JE Gabriel Legault

    Marquez won the fight. Roach himself said he expected a draw. With that kind of performance from Manny, he won’t stand a chance vs mayweather. Marquez did not win a round vs mayweather in their fight. The idea of Arum requesting a rematch with Marquez shows, he’s not ready to lose his prizefighter at the hand of a superior mayweather.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVOFILBYOIGIDNESY6SY7NI52A Robert

    The Judges said Pacman won; Maarquez said he wonl fight fans said Marquez won; Pacman said he won;
    But who really is the WINNER?
    The real WINNER: Las Vegas Casinos!
    a lot of Gamblers and rich personalities around the world, flocked to Las Vegas to gamble!
    maraming natalo dahil hindi napatulog ni Pacman si Marquez’

  • Anonymous

    The prowess of PAKYAW is NO QUESTION DECLINING…Though PAKYAW no doubt was the WINNER, PAKYAW frustrate the viewers of the KO expected…The PRAYERS of the FANS of PAKYAW make him victorious…Marquez at 38 and PAKYAW at 32 is a thing and a FACT…I could NOT imagine before the FIGHT that Marquez would emerged such a WARRIOR in the ring?With what happened, unsolicited ADVISED to PAKYAW – he should RETIRE now and bring until grave his GRACES in boxing not only to PAKYAW himself but to the country’s name and HONOR…Imagine PAKYAW 8 world division CHAMPION undefeated coming from the PHILIPPINES.With the encrypted banner undefeated he could pursue his POLITICS a candidate to reckon with but i doubt had PAKYAW lost it in yesterday’s bout?

  • http://victoriomanalo.blogspot.com/ Victorio Manalo

    After watching the third fight between El Dinamita and Pacman from the first bell till the last, I am convinced that it was Marquez who performed as the better fighter that night.   I am a Filipino, I love Pacquiao, I am one of his millions of fans, but I must be honest to myself, and express what I truly thought of Pacman’s performance that particular night.  In my view, there were only two ways in which, the judges should have called it: a) a draw or b) a win for Marquez.

  • Anonymous

    Proboxing judging is totally different with Amateur Boxing. I can’t believe that some boxing analyst (as if..) gives a nod to Marquez in this fight.

    ProBoxing fans are paying fans. They want actions in the ring. The judges would normally give a nod to the fighter who are aggressive and controlling the actions inside the ring. Moreso, if you’re a challenger, you should show them you deserve to get the title from the Champion.

    Just imagine if Pacquiao only wants to protect his title and play it safe by being a counter-puncher also? What kind of a fight will that be? Doesn’t he deserves a credit that it makes the fight interesting?

    And, if the counterpunching of Marquez is effective, why is it that the compubox proves otherwise?

    The real reason of the chaos of “Marquez won the fight” is the HUGE expectation of Pacquiao dominance. It does not mean though that if you survive Pacquiao and did make a close fight, you already won the fight.

    As always… Marquez is sore loser!

  • Anonymous

    Daming opinion dito, ke panalo o talo si pacquiao wala ako pakialam, ang napansin ko ay si jinky, sa sobrang pagpapaganda, nagmukha tuloy siyang kabit ni pacquiao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OGZBGWUBZZ4DNW74LHRBG7CTJU nina

    i think marquez should have won this fight. don’t get me wrong- i’m rooting for pacman but his performance in this fight showed clearly that he was unprepared and overconfident- again, the same reason why he had a draw the last time. pacman should realize that every fighter is different and it is imperative that he studies their MO in fighting so that he can find ways for his offense. pacman should remember that if he does not step up or lose a match, endorsements and sponsors (whom he decided to concentrate on instead of studying marquez’ game) will drop him instantly. get your priorities right, pacman- this is what politics and fame has done to you when you let it go to your head. go back to the basics, study your opponent, be humble and concentrate on your fight not on your press releases and endorsements. boxing is your art and your game- give it respect that it deserves.

    as for mayweather, pacman doesn’t need to prove himself by fighting him. if mayweather wants to fight, let it be on pacman’s terms but i don’t think it will push through because mayweather has a million and one reasons up his sleeve to conjure when the real negotiations of the fight begins.

  • Jorrel Quilalang

    Funny how people can say that Manny lost the fight, the judges were experts on that field and they were also on the ringside where the fight happened.

  • Anonymous

    Kung ayaw ni Marquez magpatalo sa mga Judges, ang gawin niya wala na lang Judges. Daanin na lang sa palakpakan pagkatapos ng round.Masaya siguro iyon.

  • Anonymous

    There should be a definitive victory as definitive as the way Mayweather won the fight so markedly easily against Marquez. It was a very close fight, so close that it would convince finally Mayweather himself that he can beat the Pacman of this era. Manny should solve the puzzle of cracking Marquez’s impregnable counter solid punches and like anybody else, set his family life in order too.

  • http://victoriomanalo.blogspot.com/ Victorio Manalo

    In my view, there were only two ways in which, the judges should have called it: a) a draw or b) a win for Marquez.

  • Anonymous

    Rematch na naman (4th)!!! Grabe talaga itong si Bob Arum, laging pera ang nasa isip kahit hindi na masaya ang mga tao. The fighters can train all they want and the trainers strategize all they want but I don’t think we can expect dramatic change in future results. The styles of each boxer just cancel out each other. Marquez will never win because he only waits due to his counter-punching preference unless he gets lucky and knockdowns Pacquiao in the process. Pacquiao is effective if his opponent takes risks and attacks also because that would make the opponent vulnerable to Pacquiao’s fast and multi-angled punches. So for these two fighters, the results will always be the same and this has been proven many times already.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T2DDIPNBHSCXCOHN3J7LOVCQ4Y Shinigami Sword

    Controversy aside,  it is very clear that something is not mentally right with the way Manny focused on this fight. Maybe his private life and numerous sidelines have catched up to him and robbed him of the desire to win.  I don’t blame him as he has all the fame and fortune that we can only dream about.  I admit I wished for a loss and saw a loss in this fight not to put down Manny but instead to trigger a wake up call for drastic  changes in his lifestyle and the way he overly trusts shady people.  But with this win,  no matter if a plus will be added on his boxing record,  his next bout will surely be worse and ultimately humiliating.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOUFREVBDZIHAAVAT3EQGC53YI Topioquin

    Decision is decision!

  • heidy_bsb

    I certainly do not agree with you, I even believe that Marquez was actually the winner. Although a lot of people have been saying that he was very deffensive, well, maybe he was, but as much as he was also chasing Pacquiao; watching Pacquiao’s expression was enough to see that even he himself knew that he was losing and that he actually lost; when they said Pacquiao was the winner, he did not believed it, and that’s enough proof for me…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYVO5BIPX6WO4IGFRGIQE3P6HY Ruben

    Nathanielsz hopes the controversial victory will make Pacquiao realize that he needs to make changes to his team.

    “I am hoping this is a real wake-up call for him, and he realizes
    that he has so many things he has to do. And one of them, is to clean
    his house,” Nathanielz said. “The people around him, cut that number
    down and get rid of the guys who hang around and suck your blood, and
    concentrate on the sport.”

    ….Start with Chavit Singson.
     

  • heidy_bsb

    I certainly do not agree with you, I even believe that Marquez was actually the winner. Although a lot of people have been saying that he was very deffensive, well, maybe he was, but as much as he was also chasing Pacquiao; watching Pacquiao’s expression was enough to see that even he himself knew that he was losing and that he actually lost; when they said Pacquiao was the winner, he did not believed it, and that’s enough proof for me…

  • Anonymous

    C’mon guys, don’t be too harsh on Pacman.  He just had an “off night” against Marquez.  This is normal among superathletes.  Kobe, who averages 29 ppg, at one time only scored 11 points.  Jordan, with a 30 ppg, scored just 6 points in one game. Ali, “The Greatest”, was knocked out by Joe Frazier.  Mar Roxas, who “cannot be defeated in an election”, lost to Jojo Binay.  And come to think of it, even in an “off night” Pacman won the fight according to the majority of the judges.  Let’s not make uncharitable statements on him.  He is a kababayan.. and he is still the best P4P boxer in the world.

  • Anonymous

    So many was  said and commented but the color of money and greed was abiviously all over the script of that boxing. For Arum to say that a 4rth rematch must be made is not only a mother of all “ripped off” but an insult to the inteligence of the viewers.

  • Anonymous

    after many has enterred politics, he has already mastered the art of ripped off and scaming otrher people’s money

  • Anonymous

    Nice photo!!

    It’s a strategy alright, if Pacman knocked out Marquez, Gayweather will find another excuse not to fight him.

    In terms of “last fight was a controversial win” the score now is:
    Pacman = 1
    Gayweather = 1

  • Anonymous

    Pacquiao is the champ, Marquez is a goner who’s is out there just to make his last keep,Pacquiao generates money for Las Vegas,notice that Vegas city reek money whenever Manny fights there.So the fight was liken to a hometown decision,if Marquez will not knock him down then he should know better,he is in the ring for years and he knows this is an unwritten rule in boxing.

  • Anonymous

    You have to count first the punches of Marquez and should overlap that by few jabs.
    You will get your money but we should also fill our pockets.
    You can’t stop fighting now because we still need you.
    These are the words of the big players in Las Vegas.
    Have we forgotten Michael Jordan, and the sad fate of his father?
    They are everywhere in the field of sports.
    Next time Pacquiao fights, he won’t bring any of his family members.
    Fellow lawmakers of MP, you watch there again and you’ll see what I mean.
    Windmills of the gods.

  • Anonymous

    I got your point. But i do not think Gayweather is lacking the inteligence to read between the line.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JJZUBVB26IUPOVKAAZ6IPWIFU Alpha

    in this article:

    Pacquiao responded by turning the heat in the 12th, unleashing barrages
    that Marquez managed to contain with strong counters and combinations.
    Two judges had Pacquiao winning the round, and it was their scores that
    saved the fight from ending in a draw.

    What? a Draw?
    Am I correct the the author of this article says it was a Draw?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    I agree with the Sri Lankan analyst. Pacman should free himself of showbiz. He is not concentrating… too many distractions.

    Yes, he is over trained.

    A marathoner I know could run 25 kilometers everyday. He thought he was being healthy by subjecting too much pain on his body. He suffered heart ailment.

    A body builder, suffered the same illness.

    And at Fitness First at SM Megamall, It was already 3:00 am, people are doing body building to the detriment of their health. I hope the Department of Health will look into this.

  • http://twitter.com/grandpaber mel bercel

    I agree with you all who thinks Pacman should retire. Rep Pacquiao  should seek another challenge, that is become an avid advocate of ‘matuwid na landas’. This, he can  do if he projects an image of goodness (with out doubt). Helping the poor (which he already does), getting rid of his currupt alalays (which he needs to do), oversea meaningful projects like dredging of rivers (many of them are in Bulacan and Pamgpanga) to make them swimmable and theming with aquatic life again (a legacy making endeavor, he is already a boxing legacy), stick to his legal family and maintain his unknown family and add no more (many tsismis on this..a womanizer), prepare himself to become a very able and knowledgeable public servant thru continuning education (a bachelors’ and master’s degree from a formal institution will prove his resolve to be working hard for the cause of his people and himself, example is vice mayor moreno), etc…There are still other ideas, which I feel the good bloggers can relay to the great boxer how he can market himself as a president.  From this time till  he qualifies (agewise) to run  for  president is  plenty enough to  improve himself as a presidentiable.  As for me, I see him presidentiable, but he needs to prepare himself first, just like how he had prepared for his boxing career. He should start vocalizing his vision of the Philippines. And if there are things he can implement while a congressman, he will be well-liked when he runs for president. Mr Pacman will be remembered more ‘The President of the Philippines who boxed for his country and people.’

  • kido

    had overheard that some of pacquiao’s camp said that he was bit lousy in his just concluded fight with JMM because of so many distractions and been busy of so many other things. this should serve as an eye opener and a lesson to his handlers and to pacquiao himself that he can’t be of anything as he want. if he want to maintain his status as an A-1 boxer he should  stick and be focused  into it and think of nothing more. pacquiao’s forte is only in boxing at sana ay huwag na niyang pasukin at pakyawin ang lahat ng larangan kahit wala naman siyang ibubuga.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PHM4KJAJFFSLCKXU2CJEEUVY4E timawa

    It seems pacman’s training is for a different boxer. Definitely Team Pacquiao didnt prepare for Marquez. There was nothing new to the skills and moves he showed compared to what we heard and read from the media.There was an absence of an offense strategy, proof he cant land a combi of punches against marquez until the end of the fight. Basically, Pacquaio still has problems fighting sluggers, counter punchers with close quarter skills.His power is good only for medium range punches. My advise for team pacquaio is to hone his slugging style and develop punching power for close quarter punches. He might be the best  P4P boxer but he has to develop his close-up fighting styles to match his deadly medium punching styles to become an all around fighter. Still Muhammad Ali is still the greatest all around fighter.

  • Anonymous

    badjin, you got it right.

  • Anonymous

    congratulations to pacquiao for successfully defending his crown …but my heart goes out for marquez.  it’s not the old pacquiao that we saw instead a mediocre performance from the pound for pound king.  in my opinion, manny won because 1. because manny is the champ – marquez must impress the judges to win the fight. this is a big burden to marquez. he must KO pac for a convincing win. 2. manny brought the fight to marquez, marquez should be the aggressor.  if you are a marauder or conqueror then you should be ready to attack forcefully against a fortified fortress to dethrone the king. nothing will happen in a sitzkrieg. 3. a 4th match will not happen because people will think it will be the same as the 3rd match – this will not be saleable as the first 3 fights. marquez should have given an extra ounce of effort to dethrone the king.

    the 3rd fight in my opinion is the legit draw among the series. both fighters are toe to toe, exchanging punches. both are cautious to each others capabilities. pac know marquez can counter effectively and marquez does not want to kiss the canvass for the third time.

    OR MAYBE…this is all for show to lure the gayweather to sign up for the biggest fight of the century?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U34KTDWEA7DGB3NG333A4R2GXA Haku Daten

    Cramps again! (First with Mosley Fight) Replace your conditioning coach Manny! Twice you experienced cramps so early in the rounds…. it’s matter of conditioning or “over conditioning” na ang ginagawa sa’yo ng trainer mo!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZUJ5PWPGPIHIHNGC66C5WHKNZA Roberto

    Pacman should retire? Yes, but from what? As a boxer who wins what he really did not win> As a congressman who is so much absent and anyway does not understend the matter? As a lousy actor and singer?
    He will not do as long as he can get billions from boxing, no matter he really wins or not. And as long as millins of Filipinosmake him “the pride of the Philippines” as if there is nothing else to be proud of.Since this guarantees big profits, the Las Vegas Mafia will support him. And Cong. Paquiao will have enough money to spend another hundred millions to buy his votes in a province where he never lived the required period, just registered after his own city fellows did not elect him as Mayor with all his millions spent. Poor Philippines if really he would run for a presidential mandate.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s just put it this way: Im a Filipino and my side is with Manny.

    Whether it was a convincing win or not, I will always cheer for our kapwa pinoy.

    I prefer to see a Pinoy in winning style (be it by decision or not), instead of seeing my countryman deprived of his win (Circa, Onyok Velasco).

  • http://pinoy-politics.blogspot.com Monsi Serrano

    I am sure all of us Filipinos wished that Manny wins the fight, but it’s not just winning (not this kind of controversial winning), but rather a convincing one — living up to the press releases and media hyped they did. With what happened, I hope others and even Manny’s camp would not react violently on the reservation of the people including me and other Filipinos. We are not spitting in our own face. We love Manny, but the truth is, we all witnessed that  he did not win convincingly as he professed. What is success and victory shrouded with doubt and controversy? It’s nothing.  We the disappointed fans just felt that Manny fell too short on the standard he setforth prior his fight. Because we believe and we know that Manny can do more than that!

  • Nikki Sacramento

    I share your sentiment. I think almost all Filipinos missed our flamboyant fighter’s zest and old form. To be honest, after we watched the fight here at MGM, all our families and friends who were with us felt that the fight did not turn out the way we expected it to be.

    On the final note, I noticed that on his camp, there are so many coaches who want to be seen by camera. That added up to the distraction of Manny. My heart bleeds for Manny, I know he could do more. For some strange reason, the fire was extinguished even before he moved up to the ring.

  • Anonymous

    After the 12th round, you could clearly see from the champ’s gestures that he’s already ready to accept what’s inevitable. He also knew that he disappoint his fans for not giving them the fight that they want that most pacquiao fans are not happy to talk about it . though both fighters are good but the burden was in marquez’s side as a challenger to dominate the fight, of which the judges found out not so convincing based on the challenger’s performance as a counterpuncher and the compubox result. had marquez managed to gave at least one knockdown shot on pacman, the judges decision would have been different. so there you go…the champ retains his crown. Marquez must be singing now the lines of James Ingram song “I did my best, but I guess my best wasn’t good enough…”

  • Anonymous

    Hey Roberto, I know you’re a Filipino, watch out with what you are saying! what the heck are you moaning about? why do you hate Pac so much? what has he done to you that made you utter those nasty words? don’t you know that you and your family are indirectly benefiting from every glory and dollar that Pac brings in to the Phils.? Where is your conscience? It seems that you have so much problem within yourself see your doctor please?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZUJ5PWPGPIHIHNGC66C5WHKNZA Roberto

    And the Mexicans? They have to accept that their countryman was deprived of his win?

  • Anonymous

    Mexican boxers usually moved forward not
    backward.

    Obviously, Pacquiao move forward,
    he dictates the tempo of the fight up to the last round.

    The Champion attack, yet the
    Challenger counter punch and moved backward. In boxing, the challenger must be more aggressive
    to win the belt. But Marquez is not doing it, he protect himself by being knockdown
    or knockout.

    If Marquez really want to be a Champion
    we must engage in brawl, not backing up and rely on his counterpunches that was
    initiated by his opponent. Moreso, Pacman outlanded Marquez in number of punches
    (178-136).

    BUT remember in boxing, the judge
    scored it by rounds. They fought for 12 rounds, the judges scored by round 6-6,
    7-5 and 8-4 in favor of Pacquiao. Since there is no knockdown nor deductions, the
    judge gave 10 for the winner and 9 for the loser for that  particular round ( assuming no 10-10 draw score
    for any round),  that’s translate to
    114-114, 115-113 and 116-112.

    Hence, if Marquez won big in two
    to four rounds, that doesn’t mean that he won all the 12 rounds. The deciding
    factor though is the last two round won by Pacquiao.

    Remember, “Defense doesn’t make a
    boxer a champion”.

  • http://pinoy-politics.blogspot.com Monsi Serrano

    I agree. Next time, don’t bring along Jinky in the fight —- she’s a JINX. Your lucky charm is Nanay Dionisia whose pure her and simplicity still there despite your success and popularity! Nanay Dionisia prays that you win and will not be hurt, while Jinxky pray that you win so she will have a lot of money. Look at her, she just displays her new disgusting look apparently as instructed by Belo to get free advertisement. 

  • http://twitter.com/yohanzmorales yohanz morales vela

    no digo que pacman sea un mal boxeador.
    pero la pelea de ayer fué de Marquez,
     y pacman lo sabia al no festejar
     y a ver en su rostro una cara de frustracion y la de su equipo tambien.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZUJ5PWPGPIHIHNGC66C5WHKNZA Roberto

    Cramps and feeling out of balanse? Could be sure signs of that what Manny tries so hard to hide by refusing correct dated blood tests.

  • Anonymous

    What drastic benefits has he given us besides letting us be known in the boxing realm? Umangat ba ang standards of living ng mga filipino? In my opinion, he’s making a joke out of himself as an actor, a singer, and a politician. Hangga’t may sumusulsol, kakagatin naman.

    Iba ang persona nya inside the ring vs outside, and most filipinos prefer the former. And as to why people think he’s the saviour of the filipino nation ehh… Though he did bring honor in world athletics, you can’t take that away but that’s all there is to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Hernani-Parco/100000334088180 Jose Hernani Parco

    Marquez actually won the match, Manny won US$22++ Mn!

  • Anonymous

    Im not sure if the cramp thingy is real. During his last loss, ang dahilan naman daw maluwag yung medyas. Kinda looks sketchy. More respect could have been given if he just said that he performed poorly.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! another unbelievable hypocritical comment by godofthunder16.

  • Anonymous

    the marathoner and the body builder may have had a congenital disease? FF mega is enteraining clients at 3 in the morning?i though mall closes at 10pm?

  • Anonymous

    You did not answer my question as to how he “raised our standards of living”, as you said we are all indirectly benefitting from him. And how is providing a critique hypocritical?  Are you a big fan of his movies and albums? Then why are you so butthurt?

  • http://twitter.com/yohanzmorales yohanz morales vela

    not saying that pacman is a bad fighter.
    but yesterday was the fight of Marquez,
      pacman and knew it by not celebrating
      on his face and see a face of frustration and his team also

  • Anonymous

    relax guys on the pacman.  i’m sure all of us are disappointed considering some, like me paid for a PPV or went outside to watch the fight live.

    everyone is entitled to a bad day. it was the judges who made pac win the fight. looking at pacman’s reaction, he looked like he also doubted his performance.

    maski superheroes naiisahan din ng kalaban. si superman nga napatay pa ni doomsday hehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    IT IS NOT ACTUALLY INSIDE THE MALL IT IS A SEPARATE BUILDING BESIDE THE MALL. VISIT IT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF DOING TREADMILL

  • Anonymous

    How can judges count the rounds 6-6 the one and 8-4 the other? Did not they judge the same fight? Or see the same punches even they sit very prominently placed? It means one of them gave even the rounds to Manny where he said he felt cramps and outbalanced. Very funny…

  • Mark Jason Bagsic

    Dito nagkatalo: After round 12, Marquez praised himself while Pacquiao prayed. See the difference?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    THERE IS STILL BOXING HERE, NOBODY WINS YET

  • http://twitter.com/crab2008 victor cacho

    THE REAL WINNER IS MARQUEZ. 

  • Anonymous

    Agree. Now how he handles the post-fight is what’s gonna make or break him. But yeah, anyone could have a bad day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7I2DQBNKTC2IBEG2BGP5KWHNDY Anthony

    I’m a big fan of Pacquiao, and not to discredit him of all his accomplishments, Marquez threw more puches and with better accuracy than Pacquiao.. and that ain’t “quackin”.. Pacquiao, knows himself that he was outclassed a bit by Marquez, even shook his head by the end of round 12 and didn’t even raise his hands.. its just that entertainment and business wise Pacquiao is more bankable.. and the trade in boxing is, if you’re the challenger and you’re up against a champ like Manny, its either you knock him out or totally outclass and annihilate your opponent in all rounds. You go aggressive all thru out the fight, which was almost the case in this fight, however, that’s really how it is when you mix sports and business… still, congratulations to Manny.. and also to Marquez, he deserved the rematch and the supposed win, and he deserves another rematch.. he clearly has Manny’s number.. So next time Pacman needs to step it up to win decisively.. without a doubt.. Again, kudos to Marquez.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSWXQOH5M7XN56ZY25KH5VYXSE Allan

    If that is the way he fought now,  i am sure mayweather is now willing to fight him. Manny Pacquiao had many distractions. His being a politician, a boxer and his colorful lovelife plus the disciples sorrounding him. It’s time for him to retire while on top before  Mayweather or other boxers pulverized him.

  • Anonymous

    Or he could release the “extra baggage” and focus more.

  • Anonymous

    This will surely be a learning experience for PacMan. Hope he will assess his weaknesses or style to edge any future opponent. Kahit nasa taas ka na, siguradong mey butas pa yan.

  • Amiel Vincent Arce

    Has anyone really read the news above? If Marquez won, then do we also consider the CompuBox as biased?

  • Anonymous

    godofthunder16, I’ll have my lunch in 15, can I meet you somewhere so I can explain everything to you in person? I’m in the area within Makati, where about are you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NV5P53UAHQFZNOAP2RUB75DFLM Kasmot

    Suddenly Pacquiao didn’t look so great. Discounting the number of punches, Marquez was in total control of the match. That night, Marquez was simply the better fighter.

    But then again, it’s Vegas. The house always wins.

  • juan katutubo

    Im a big fans of Pac-Man! But he won unconvincingly yesterday. His style and tactics will never match with Gayweather Hit-and-Run technique if the fight will materialize next year.  Slow start and end with losing mouthpiece to give more room to breath! He (PACMAN) must do what he does with Dela Hoya and Cotto!!!

  • Anonymous

    what lesson is to be learned by pacquiao in his last fight with marquez? pacquiao must win at all times and convincingly. Outside winning convincingly is none negotiable to others as if pacquiao is like a God who can’t do wrong, an unbeatable immortal who is free from pains, emotion and sickness. Just a reminder to all, in any competition, game or contest. there is a loser and a winner. even our existence in this world is a competition, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.I think, his family is undergoing emotional agony now because some people are crucifying pacquiao as if he has done an unforgivable capital offense and he intentionaly allowed it to happen. It is what it is. it’s done.   

  • Anonymous

    Oh come on, you could type it here. It’s actually much better as you could edit it out and think it over thoroughly.

  • Anonymous

    godofthunder16, meet me outside and you’ll hear my explanation.

  • Anonymous

    come on, I want to see you face to face.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, I work in QC. And what’s stopping you from typing it out? Oh wait, naghahamon ka ba? lol.

  • Anonymous

    Pacquiao has so much distractions from his wife’s jelousy, his team Pacman “Balato Gang”, Buboy’s telling and dictating him on what to do ( Totally differently from what coach Roach wants him to do inside the ring), Chavit Singson’s taking advantage of Manny ( Jinky once said that Chavit and some politicians keeps asking money from Pacquiao), Too many  ” AMUYONG”  within his circle, too much showbiz influence,and being easily  fooled by his politicians friends led by Chavit Singson and Lito Atienza that he’s so good to be the next President of the Philippines. NOT LIKE BEFORE, He’s so focus.

  • Anonymous

    What for? If it’s a mere exchange of ideas we could do it here. Or are you asking for something more?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WBXS7HGUTUSH6L2VYEHNMPPMUY Mesc

    Congrats to Manny! 

    We all expected him to KO Marquez, but he seemed unable to be his old fearless and fearsome self. Doubters should, however, only need to refer to the CompuBox stats:  Manny threw more punches and landed MORE power shots  That’s what the judges saw.  Ordinary mortals like most of us often fail to see the telling blows in the flurry; but experts, like the judges, have no problem noting them.

    Personally, though, I think it’s time for Manny to retire.  

    Iba na ang laro niya.  And I’m not surprised. He’s older.  He’s been mixing it up for sixteen years. Imagine the effects on his body of the countless shots he has received.

    At ewan ko kung ako lang ang nakakakita, pero napapansin nyo ba na iba na ang expression ng titig niya?

    May mga times na blangko.  Medyo banlag na parang tulala.  It’s a tell-tale sign of cumulative brain trauma, the result of the head being rocked by a punch.  And who knows how many such punches he absorbs every match, including sparring sessions, for almost two decades?  

    I’m proud of Manny. I’m truly grateful for the honor he has brought our country.  

    But I’d love him to be remembered for the champion that he is–not the battered loser that he would inevitably become if he decides to continue fighting at the state that he is now.  

    Hang up your gloves, champ.  You’ve earned your millions and an enviable niche in boxing immortality.  

    Baka pag naghangad ka ng kagitna ay madisgrasya pa ang lahat ng pinaghirapan mo.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations Manny!

    Don’t you think it’s time to retire from boxing and concentrate on being our congressman. It’s time to move on and focus your energy in helping our people and nation as you have been saying.

    There is also a very compelling reason to do it: As you have confirmed in one of your interviews that I heard, you are well aware of the likelihood of brain damage even to boxers who quit at 29 to 30 years old.

    Best wishes on your future endeavors.

  • Anonymous

    THE ONLY CONTROVERSY are the Boxing fans, for wanting to be the Judge ,and not just simply being a true Boxing fans. NO ! I’m right…NO ! Marquez won, then NO WAY ! Pacquiao still the champion…..Is it because most of us really don’t know the mechanics on what the real judges do before announcing who won the fight. In other words, WANNABE BOXING FANS.

  • Anonymous

    i was not able to watch the match but people says that manny was not up par with marquez that night. maybe that’s why there are doubts in people’s minds upto now. anyway, let’s respect the decision of the judges. 

  • Teresa Santos

    Konting disiplina pa Manny…buhay seminarista…bawasan ang aktibidad…kahit dalawa o tatlong laban na lang tapos retire ka na at pwede mo nang gawin lahat ng ibang bagay na gusto mong gawin..ito ang best advise..wag mo intindihin yung iba diyan..Congratulations to your victory yesterday and congrats to everyone in Pacquiao Team and Freddie Roach

  • Anonymous

    Expectations were set too high for Pacquiao but numbers still points to him as a winner. Pacquiao camp were to blame boasting a stoppage as early as round 1 knock-out. Though Pacquiao still showed a true champ heart but he has lacked of a game plan this time, he couldn’t cracked Marquez counter defense, he merely depended on his good skills and speed. In this aspect the whole Team Pacquiao has to be blamed not just Pacquiao.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TEFDIBGKUMQRKLEVBHB4JM4Z6I dragos

    Great photo!

  • Anonymous

    While Marquez deserves a re-match, Pacquiao and Fans should well deserving too

  • Teresa Santos

    kasi masyado na tayong nasanay sa super performance ni Pacquiao kaya na disappoint tayo….kung puro fiesta ang pagkain mo, pag pinakain ka ng masarap nagmumukang di masarap

  • http://twitter.com/judefawley Jude Fawley

    Congrats Marquez!!

  • Anonymous

    win or lose, manny pacquiao deserves our admiration. he has done more than enough to make our country proud. mabuhay ka, pacman!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    buti ka pa natitigan na ni manny ako di pa kakainggit naman!

  • Anonymous

    Well, I may beg to disagree too with you. It may seem to some, especially to those who don’t understand scoring in boxing, that Marquez may have won the fight. Scoring is done round by round. Round by round, Pacquiao won more rounds than Marquez. Of course, Marquez also won some rounds but not enough to claim the championship.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez doesn’t need a rematch, he has nothing to prove. Rematch, for what? para dayain dahil sa daming  suntok pero ano naman ang quality ng suntok niya.? Clearly Marquez won the fight. Kung Ako sayo pacman magretire ka na, wag mo ng kalabanin si Mayweather kungdi magmumukha ka lang katawatawa sa ring. Masyado kasing greedy sa money, ang dami na niyan, baka karmahin ka pa. Just watch Mayweather-marquez fight sa youtube and you’ll see how he humilated Marquez.

  • Anonymous

    MAYROONG CRAMP SI PACMAN KAYA HINDI SIYA MASYADONG NAKA PAG BITAW NANG MAGANDANG PUNCHES SA AWAY NILA MARQUES.PERO GANON PA MAN,NAIPAKITA NYA NA THE BEST SIYA KAYSA KAY MARQUES IN THE LAST THREE ROUNDS.KUNG PAULIT ULIT MONG PANOORIN ANG THE WHOLE 12 ROUNDS SA HULI MAKIKITA MO ANG KAIBAHAN KAYSA TSIMIS LANG.PANALO SI PACMAN !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    Wow date sama ako diyan ha di ako malakas kumain promise!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    si senor la esta esla casa tambien viva marquez!

  • Ruby Rails

    I agree! What marquez did was to wait for Manny to come in and counter all the punches. If this was
    their strategy then he proved nothing then. If I was the challenger I need to be agressive to show the crowd that I’m really hungry to take the title from Manny, not just by running away everytime he’s cornered.

  • Anonymous

    Now you’re being funny. Not a single judge saw Marquez winning pero ikaw sigurado ka. HAHAHA …

  • Anonymous

    Kelan kaya magiging ganito ka-impluwensyal si Munoz? lol.

  • http://pinoy-politics.blogspot.com Monsi Serrano

    Ruben may isa pang Epal, si Buboy Fernandez. Umaagaw ng eksena habang nagbibigay si Freedie Roach ng isntruction kay Manny, sige din sya ng bigay. At hindi pa nakuntento, dinidikit pa nya yung mukha nyang Lydia’s lechon kay Manny. Ayun, nasobrahan ang cholesterol ni Manny, nahirapan syang habulin si Marquez. Nabusog sya sa Lydia’s lechon eh. Masarap kasi.

  • Anonymous

    I have a feeling that what contributed to this controversy was the state of high emotions … and the less than stellar performance of the newscasters / commentators spouting their fears off during the course of the fight. 

    The commentators were so really NEGATIVE. It’s ridiculous how what I was watching didn’t jive with what I was hearing from the commentators.

  • Anonymous

    i see. i think you were referring to sm mall of asia? there is another building there that houses fitness first.

  • Anonymous

    The Pacman was burned out during fight night because of too much training perhaps. He looked tired at the opening bell and was rather slow as compared to his other fights. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U34KTDWEA7DGB3NG333A4R2GXA Haku Daten

    How can you say that Pacman is greedy by making fights? Have you been to GenSan already and see the projects that PacMan has given to the public using his OWN MONEY? A portion of his winnings, he gives it to the public… if you say that is greedy then we should let Webster change the description of “Greedy”

    Baka inggit lang yan Bro…. Huwag tayong utak ipis… Filipino ka pa naman.

  • Anonymous

    Too many distractions IMO. I remember hearing something from a Ronnie Nathanielsz interview, like Ariza recommended Pac to rest after training, but the guy did appearances etc. Might have some truth in it, but im not sure, di naman ako kasama sa entourage e lol.

  • Anonymous

    in boxing the win could be ko, tko or decision. under the decision there’s the unanimous, split and majority.

    usually the last two happens when the fight is close but definitely they’re within the rule and a legitimate one decision. so in yesterday’s bout either pacman or dinamita could win but as it turned out we have the winner!

    however, it was noticeable that ain’t the pacman like he used to be, just like his last two fights. perhaps it only shows that he’s no longer really a full time boxer? i think he has now evaluate which one his priority politics, singing career or boxing? that’s whether he’s going for pacquiao-marquez iv or against the probably now smiling floyd. this undisputed blubbering expert guy in boxing might have lot of notes taken from yesterday’s bout and will have finally a courage to challenge our pambansang kamao this coming may 2012!

    win is a win so congrats manny!

  • Anonymous

    mag-ingat tayo sa pagsasabi na nag DONATE SI PACMAN ng sariling niyang pera.
    Kasi meron batas sa DONORS TAX.
    Baka habulin siya ng BIR.
    Kapag ang isang tao ay nag-donate ay kailangan magbayad ng donors tax.

  • Anonymous

    tanzangluma, just to meddle…. i think, donors tax only applies when you donate your property. Deed of Donation is needed to transfer the donation or gift to become legal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    Sus may pagnanasa kay Jinkee noh aminin di ka papansinin nun wla ka milyones hahaha….!

  • Anonymous

    that sri lankan guy may be right on that aspect but don’t trust much his analysis because just a day or two before the fight he said that only if one has to shoot manny and only then marquez will have a chance to win. i was waiting for the host to ask him about it because in that same interview he believed already that pacman lost to marquez! kita mo yang kunwaring pinoy at boxing analyst expert daw kuno? dapat siguro umuwi na sya sa colombo at mag-aral na lang sya ng cricket ano? :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    ayy dapat ang laban yung tulad sa spartacus hahaha…. sigurado isa lang talaga ang mananalo! Ganun din naman ang crowd sa MGM eh wala nga lang nudity!

  • Anonymous

    these are all marketing trick that ordinary people don’t even realize while these promoters earn millions of dollars…they make stories, fabricated lies while innocent consumers pay just to tune in to their idiot boxes, bettors bet millions of their money, satellite providers earn on pay per view while companies promotes their products around the world through their commercials..whats the fuss all about??? who cares if Pacquiao wins and Marquez lost?

  • Anonymous

    Lol @ the cricket thing. Anyway, lots of JMM critics were proven wrong as well, but you couldn’t deny that maybe, that “extra weight” has cought up with the pac. Who knows?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O44GSCYGTTABUFEAWRL5GUWHPA Sabrina Joy

    He won’t take your advice maningning ang kislap ng karangalan at salapi nakakatakot siya baka pagbigyan niya ang humihiling ng 4th rematch ma KO mas kakahiya yun haaay!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2XIUSD43FIA5VVWEAMH6EFV4GY glenn

    It was close fight. Fact: Marquez had some great solid punches. Pacman had more hits. Harder hits count as much as any other hit. How hard a punch is relevant only if it results in a KO or  at least hurts the opponent which is not the case here. It would be more of a controversy  if they gave it to marquez. 

  • Anonymous

    haven’t been to gen san, pero yan din sabi ng kaibgan ko na taga doon na ginagawa ni manny.

  • Anonymous

    tama ka reden

  • Anonymous

    yes, i believe somehow it does but not the way this guy analyse and predict so sure yet flip-flop almost in a blink of an eye? :))

  • Anonymous

    wwe in the making? lol!

  • Anonymous

    who’s gonna win, pacquiao vs mayweather?

    pacquiao + 3 judges

    versus

    mayweather + referee

  • Anonymous

    i think neither of the two were hurt apart from the occasional headbutts.

  • Anonymous

    Agree, pare-pareho lang sila lol.

  • Don Dee

    Marquez does NOT have the punching power to KO Manny. But a fourth fight would be the same as the first three. Boring, match. So maybe not.

  • Anonymous

    Stop drinking your pee! flip26

  • Anonymous

    and his on top of them all, lol!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U34KTDWEA7DGB3NG333A4R2GXA Haku Daten

    There is no need na “mag-ingat”… If you haven’t known yet, Manny Pacquiao is already at the WATCH LIST of BIR ever since he earns millions pal ;-)

    Lahat ng galaw nyan bantay sarado ng TAX… este BIR pala. ;-)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U34KTDWEA7DGB3NG333A4R2GXA Haku Daten

    Sa Pacquiao-Marquez IV… if ever… dapat ibalik ang 15 Rounds of Boxing instead of 12. Matira matibay!

  • Anonymous

    I smell sabit(Chavit) with this fight. Mafia style, lots of filipinos in LA bet for knockout from Pacquiao but it didn’t happen. Maybe Chavit bet for no knockout ha ha. Manny for President!!!!

  • Anonymous

    it was a good fight and marquez was impressive. although pacman won by points, i thought it was just a hairline margin. he was not the same pacman in this last fight. he lacks focus, seems slower and less confident. pacquiao need to make some important changes in his lifestyle particularly his extra curricular activities. in boxing, discipline is the key.  being in politics, music recording, tv hostings,  endorsements, and hanging around with blood suckers, etc., will suck his energy and focus. it will only diminish his skills and motivation in the said sport which is his true craft. if he keep on with his current lifestyle, mayweather will eat him alive.

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    no senor!! me esta en marquez de comillas!!
    yo commento para esplikar por los filipinos idolos del dispalenghados el talento!!
    gracias!!! Muy bien!!!

  • Anonymous

    feliz navidad…prospero año y felicidad!!!

  • Anonymous

     With our TV muted so as not to be swayed by fight analyst’s/ sportscaster’s and audience reaction, I’ve scored the fight and had it 7 rounds won by Manny. Not an impressive victory but nonetheless still a victory in my book.While Marquez definitely outdid himself on this fight, it was not enough to wrest the title.

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    factors
    1. over expectation
    2. non supportive dra bello beautified wife
    3. wily non-attacking opponent
    4. sycophants around manny

    even possible strategy
    to lure maryweather in

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPS4NX43KX72QGIQRY4EK7TPKM offshorecyber

    What a dissapointing show from Pacman. Pacman, you need to sort out your priorities…there are too much extra activities going around you.  You really need to concentrate on your boxing….your nice Ferrarri will not save you from the onslaught of boxing.  To be honest….you just humiliated yourself in front of your boxing fans.  I am a rich man and I don’t care about your money but please do yourself a big favor do not embarass and degrade yourself again.  I am afraid, that Mayweather will walk all over you.

  • Anonymous

    Impossible na manalo si Marquez sa huling two round nanghina si Marquez at nawala ang aggressiveness na isang sa important para maging champion. Walang champion na nanghhiina at nawala ang aggressive ibig sabihin kinapos si Marquez samantalang si Pacquiao sa huling three round ay aggressive at malakas na malakas pa. he he he marunong pa sila sa mga judges na mas malapit sa fight nang dalawa.

  • Don Dee

    And besides, the CompuBox stats do not lie (at walang bias). Manny connected with more punches. So how can Marquez (who is the challenger and supposed to wrest the title away) win?

  • Anonymous

    The honorable part-time congressman did not even respect Bayang Magiliw enough to stand at attention while it was sung. Shame.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CLMZFT6XI6KL355GP4RISGPN4Q iamph

    people, come to think of it. paquiao, marquez along with promoters, etc – WON (in millions). the people LOST especially those who bet and paid to watch the event. it’s all BUSINESS my friends… pathetic showmanship.

  • mark angelo zamudio

    Watching the fight, it seems to many people that everytime Marquez hits Manny in the head, Manny’s head would rock backward while Marquez’s head  doesn’t move that much every time Manny hit him. Marquez has a strong neck due to his team’s workout to specifically strenthen his neck muscles. Manny’s team on the other hand, does not put the same focus on that area of the body. As a result, Marquez’s punches give the impression that his punches are stronger due to the backward movement of Manny’s head which is more obvious. What people don’t realize is that Manny is still the stronger puncher and Marquez’s face is proof of that. He may not be able to rock Marquez’s head backward but Marquez’s face is proof enough that pacman’s punches are stronger and more effective.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KF2TCBJ2AUC7VIPR3TACWUGITE Rednaxela VD

    Advice to Manny:  Quit now while you are ahead.  Announce your retirement and let Mayweather seek you out for a fight.  You should only fight Mayweather and no one else.  Marquez is your “kontrapelo” and a fourth fight would only yield the same result.

    Mayweather or no one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2FEDIATTAUAMXRYYTWMECDYXM Muhazias

    you are correct.even possible strategy to lure mayweather.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2FEDIATTAUAMXRYYTWMECDYXM Muhazias

    hi u dont know the strategy for mayweather

  • Anonymous

    Pacquiao created his own problem…now he is fighting against himself..every fight he must be better than previous him…people expected too much from him, people are looking up for the standard he set on how to annihilate his opponent  in every fight…after the last fight, his value seriously diminished in the eyes of the people including  me. The only way to redeem himself now is to destroy marquez in  their 4th outing or give floyd all his frustration from marquez.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3S3WP7BZ7PFMLGXW6QJON2NDUQ tebs

    the only unclear rounds in this bout are rounds 8 and 9. so conservatively i scored it as Marquez rounds. rounds 1, 3, 4, 6 and 10 are clear pacquiao rounds while rounds 2, 5 and 7 are very clear Marquez rounds. making it an even match till round 12. round 12 however is super hard to judge i didnt see either of them connect but the HBO 12th round replay does show pacman hitting marquez with a solid one and he was the one hunting down marquez. 

    Conservatively its a draw. basing it on punches alone of course manny will win, he outputs too much punches. 

    after seeing the fight i now think its useless to make them fight again and again. the results will be the same. they should just move on. Marquez should regret not putting in an additional 10% into the match. that should have been enough to convince everyone to his favor.

  • Anonymous

    do you? well, tell us

  • Anonymous

    agree

  • Anonymous

    You don’t even know the correct title of our national anthem. Its Lupang Hinirang, boy. More shame on you

  • Anonymous

    if that indeed was his strategy, what if he had lost? please tell us

  • mark angelo zamudio

    How come Marquez did not push on his plan to KO Pac?  As a challenger no other way to prove your worth to be a champion than to KO Pac.  Close match will always go to the Champion.  All night long Pac was the aggressor.  This alone would prove that he is the champion.  Marquez was excellent counter puncher but this did not win the fight for him here is the reason why?  What if Pac was not the aggressor in the fight?  and just wait for Marquez,  it will be a boring fight and no punches were thrown yet in the end the belt will still remain with pacman. Right???

  • Anonymous

    LAS VEGAS – Adding up the nine
    judges’ scorecards in the three fights between Manny Pacquiao and Juan
    Manuel Marquez, the sum will show the Filipino ring icon with a slight
    seven-point advantage.
    Before the third bout at the MGM Grand Garden Arena here Saturday
    night (yesterday morning, Manila), Pacquiao had a slim one-point edge,
    679-678, totalling the scores of the six judges. In their first
    encounter in 2004, the decision was a split draw with Burt Clements
    scoring it 113-113, Guy Jutras 115-110 for Marquez and John Stewart
    115-110 for Pacquiao. In the rematch four years later, Pacquiao won on a
    split decision with Tom Miller scoring it 114-113 for Pacquiao, Duane
    Ford 115-112 for Pacquiao and Jerry Roth 115-112 for Marquez.
    Pacquiao’s margin was extended to seven after the third match which
    saw Dave Moretti score it 115-113 for Pacquiao, Glenn Trowbridge 116-112
    for Pacquiao and Robert Hoyule, 114-all.
    Although some fans doubted the accuracy of the judges’ scoring, the
    computer stats proved Marquez wasn’t robbed. Pacquiao had more punches
    landed, 176 to 138 and more punches thrown, 578 to 436. Clearly,
    Pacquiao used his trademark as a volume puncher to pile up points over
    the more precise but less busy Marquez.
    In their first two meetings, Pacquiao averaged 100 more punches
    thrown than Marquez even as the Mexican had the advantage in
    connections, 330 to 305.
    Pacquiao made sure he had the edge in both departments in the third fight.
    On the average, Pacquiao landed 14 punches a round and Marquez, 11,
    in the third fight. The disparity was larger in punches thrown, 49 to
    36. Pacquiao led in jabs connected, 59 to 38, and power punches landed,
    117-100. Any way you look at the stats, Pacquiao was the clear winner.please….no more arguments who’s the winner… the statistics/score cards speaks….boxing is an sports not politics na pag natalo dinaya…

  • Anonymous

    how does a compubox work? some argue about the strength of punches thrown, but how strong is strong?

  • Sonny Whirly

    This is a come-on for MayWeather to come out and fight Pacquiao.  GayWeather had lots of conditions so that the fight won’t push through because he is afraid that Pacquiao will knock him out and erase his unbeaten record.  Since MayWeather had beaten Marquez via Unanimous decision,  GayWeather will think that he can beat Pacquiao as Pacquiao had a hard time beating Marquez.
    Expect a Pacquiao-MayWeather Fight in May 2012….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUVZQYX3IUO7R2PEZRDS6ZDFUA RamBoDan

    if there will be a fourth fight the betting odds will be good…Manny will be the underdog…JMM should asked for Mexican Judges, so he will not complain why only 3 people doesn’t know how to score, agree? see you next year…May 2012? thats only way JMM will agree come to fight with $10M minimum+ (money guarantee) i guess…good luck

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EW5CH3YVJ2ZCSYWEVVZUEWUDY4 michaelb

    Marquez would not even engage during his fight with Manny. He was always playing safe in the entire fight.  Had he been brave enough to really fight like a real champion would, he would have been knocked out as he has always been.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QVULUSL6P5Q4COW54MBUDWBYM4 lionel u

    losers always whine about being
    robbed, while winners pakyaw money!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AV6WEADA5CYM6QGHBRFTV34U3I Jamjam

    Pacquiao fought hard and clean.  There is no doubt to his statement that he clearly won the fight.  I don’t understand why some Filipinos are doubting his victory.  Maybe they should watch it again so they can clearly see how he won over Marquez.  Others were dismayed with the result of the fight as Manny had a hard time fighting Marquez.  Do you expect that everytime he fights, he will knock down his opponent?  What a silly expectation. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6JJZUBVB26IUPOVKAAZ6IPWIFU Alpha

    I agree with you Jamjam. everyone are expected a knock out on every manny’s fight. this is not as easy as 123. Marquez is a very skillful boxer and as we all know that only Marquez can give trouble to the pound for found king Manny Pacquaio so far. the fight was a very close fight. Maybe if Marquez is a champion on that match, he would win. Because if the round is too close, the points will go to the champion. my 2 cents

  • Anonymous

    Duon sa mga nagrereklamong dapat si Marquez ang nanalo:  Pagaralan nyong maigi paano ang patakaran ng pag-huwes sa boksing kasama ang reperi at the ‘boxing commission’ na lahat sila ay andun kasama sa pag-hahatol bawa’t raun patungo sa pang-labingdalawang raun.

    Isa-isang raun ang paghatol dyan.

    Isa pa, me siyensiyang ginagamit ang mga huwes sa paghatol ng bawa’t raun; pati ang reperi.  Merong sistema ng pag-interpreta ng mga galaw at suntok ng mga boksingero.  Mga  propesiyonal na kasama sa ‘boxing commission’ ang nakakaalam nito…at hindi ang mga manonood!

    Kung meron mang reklamo sa paghukom, pumunta sa Nevada Boxing Commission at hindi gitgitin si Pacman.  Kung meron mang pagkukulang si Pacman eh wala yung kanyang dating bagsik at talagang nahirapan siya sa ‘counter-punching’ ni Marquez.

    Maging marunong makita ang kaibhan at huwag tayo maging pansarili o maramdamin.

  • Anonymous

    Pag talo ay talo  wala na maraming usapan. Sa last 3 rounds makikita mo ang aggressivenes at strength ni Pacman. Eh si Marquez kulang na kulang sa aggressiveness na kailangan ng isang challenger.. Hindi naman puede maging champion sya kung counter-puncher lang. he he he

  • Anonymous

    Tumpak!  Sa huling tatlo o dalawang raun, makikitang agresibo si Pacman at si Marquez medyo pagod na.

    Saan tayo nakakitang isang ‘challenger’ na pasulongsulong lang at di naging agresibo.  Dapat ang ‘challenger’ ay agresibong gustong patunayan makukuha niya ang kampeonato!  Eh, ganun ba ang dating ng Mehikano???

  • Anonymous

    Boring na yan kulang sya sa atake dahil takot na ma-knockout. Pag talo ay talo maraming pa alibi. Mas malapit ang judges sa fight ang mga tao nagdedefend lang sa TV.

  • Anonymous

    Alam nyo mga kababayan ko habang binabasa ko yung mga comments dito sa forum isa lang ang naging conclusion ko na once again pinakita natin sa buong mundo na tayong mga Pilipino ay >>DUWAG,BALIMBING AT WALANG PANININDIGAN<>TALUNAN<< sa mga critical na decision  sa halip na lalaban tayo nagpapatalo na lang dahil takot tayo kung ano ang sasabihin ng iba.Sana yung mga ugaling  ganito alisin na natin sa  vocabulary nating mga pilipino para uunlad naman yung bansa natin….MABUHAY ANG PILIPINO!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hindi ko panonoorin kung matuloy ang Gayweather-Pacquiao dahil boring na boxer itong si Gayweather dahil takbo lang ang alam nitong sa ring.  he he he he

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FOPMU3EOVKFANYIWAADV7EZAXU Divina Wind

    Napoleonic trap to lure Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao? We’ll see.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B55I2F7GX2XA6M27XDAGEJUO4U Dumingag one District

    mp lost to jjm again.
    i thought jjm will get slow coz he ballooned, pero si manny ang nawalan ng apoy.

    kawawa si manny dahil idineklara siyang panalo. mahirapan siyang i.justify ang desisyon na yan ng mga judges.

    kita nyo naman, tanggap na sana niyang talo siya. kaya lang may panlaban pa si arum, iyong tatlong judges.  kaya kahit anong sabihin ni manny mga bulag na pinoy lang ang gigiit na nanalo siya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B55I2F7GX2XA6M27XDAGEJUO4U Dumingag one District

    wala na sanang manny-mayweather.
    sakaling matuloy, at ganito ang performance ni manny,
    baka mapatay siya ni mayweather sa ring.

    (payong kapatid lang. yan din and sabi ng mga kapatid ni manny, kasi kita nilang iba na si many ngayon bilang fighter)

  • Anonymous

    Baka ikaw ang bulag..di mo ba nakikita ang statistics?so how come na sasabihin mong panalo pa rin si Marquez?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWR4FI77HYTBT665R2YYXCFHWE z

    Why Manny won? In a 10-point system, the boxer who wins a round is given 10 points, and the other boxer gets nine points. (10 -9) If there was a knockdown in the round (10-8) 2 knock downs (10-7) If a judge can’t decide who won the round, it is scored 10-10. Now if you are the challenger, you must be the aggressor (Pacquiao vs Cotto) in very close rounds the Champion gets the 10. For example if Pacquiao would just stay still and Marquez does not attack, Pacquiao gets the 10 and Marquez 9. In this case Manny (champion) was always aggressive while Marquez (challenger) waits for an attack and counters. Marquez’s body language fooled a lot of people. Making people feel that he was the winner or at least it was a draw. It may look like he was landing more punches but the tricky part here is he was on the defensive, luring Pacquiao into his tactical traps (remember the challenger must be the one who is aggressive to be awarded 10 ). So even if ­ Marquez did connect more punches, he gets only 9 for being defensive and Manny gets the 10 for being the attacker. Pacquiao got more “10″s than Marquez. Manny wins. Why Manny won? “Manny knows…”
     

  • Don Dee

    Bilin naman ako sayo. Mas magaling ka pa sa mga hurado. Ilang round ka nakapag-boxing professionally? Ano credentials mo? Pano ka naging eksperto? Mas maganda ba ang vantage mo (mula sa TV) kaysa sa ringside ng mga hurado? Mas magaling ka ba bumilang ng suntok kesa sa CompuBox? Pakita mo naman sa amin ang breakdown ng analysis mo ng lalo kami bumilib. 

  • http://twitter.com/euqinom_88 Dominique Sabanpan

    Kami nalang pag judge 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B55I2F7GX2XA6M27XDAGEJUO4U Dumingag one District

    stats, huh.
    what makes you think bob cant buy the box when he obviously bought the judges?

    panoorin mo ulit. at BILANGIN mo. I.tally mo isa-isa at makikita mong mali-mali ang stats na na-quote mo.

  • http://twitter.com/Balutnaputi tex

    Listen Dumingag , napakatanda mo na ang tanga mo pa rin sa Boxing Rules!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    Itong Cramps na issue ni Manny P. ay same issue since his last fight. But i noticed parang hindi ginagawan ng paraan. The ones giving him the drinks is  Alex Ariza,  the strentgth and conditioning coach. Baka nilalason ni Jinkie at Ariza si Manny.  An allegation of an affair ni Alex A. at ni Kinkie lead to a fight at their hotel room. Kaya naaapektohan ang performance ni Manny P.  That last performance ni Manny w/ Marquez is his worst even he won the fight. jUST  look at the reaction ni Jinkie when she heard that Manny won the fight. I think she is aware that she is poisoning him.

  • Anonymous

    Look ano ba yang si Bob Arum mas mabilis pa kay Flash na sa isang iglap lang  nakausap nya na yung mga judges at nabili ka agad..parang malabo ata yung  dahilan mo tol a…Kung gusto ni Bob na bilhin ang laban di na kailangan pupunta sya  sa mga judges..sa kay marquez sya pupunta   at sasabihin na ihulog ang laban nila ni Pacquiao dahil si Marquez patapos na ang karera at kung matalo man sya di halatado..dahil paborito si Pacquiao sa laban na to.At pinaka huli makakatipid pa sya..dahil isa lang ang babayaran nya..kesa sa 3 mga judges.

  • Anonymous

    Sa tingin ko natalo si Pacquiao. Pero close fight nga. Ok lang. Rematch sila ni JMM o laban sila ni Mayweather. 

  • Don Dee

    Panoorin ulit? Yan ang tunay na fan ni JMM, umaasang manalo sa replay. lol.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    About Jinkie and Alex Ariza.  Alex A. admitted to reporter Ron Nathanielzs that there is a fight  in Pacman’s hotel room between him and Pacman.  That they both throw their cell phones on the glass table and it broke. The problem with Manny P. is that, there’s too much ‘asungot’ in his life. Sixty people living in his house playing cards, billard, singing and many more.  It reminded me of the American singer MC HAMMER.  Too much distraction. Unlike Juan Manuel Marquez, he is so focused in his life. No extracurricular activities.
        About Marquez, altogether in their  last two fights, he was knocked down 4-times. Still he  got up and claimed to be the winner.

  • http://twitter.com/Balutnaputi tex

    oy Dana , boksing ang usapan dito, hinde tsismis OK!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PBOZBBLRVEOTWHXEXOAXJR3Q3Y Dana

    About Alex Ariza, the Pacman strength and conditioning coach. Alex must not abuse the generosity of his employer.  Like what Freddie Roach said, his head is getting bigger!  In Baguio, he got into a fistfight with Michael Kooncz.  Pacman already gave him his house and he pays him $400,000.00 (four hundred thousand ) every fight and all expenses paid. Some staffers accuse him of not doing anything inspite of the money he is getting.  Everybody  around Pacman must give him his space. Ariza drives his sportscar, lives in Pacman’s house like he lives in his body.  Too much familiarity! It breeds contempt.  Lets just hope that the rumor that he is doing Jinky P. the wife of his employer is  not true. This is the cause of their fight the day before his match  in las Vegas.

  • Anonymous

    Rounds 1,3,4,6,7 (others gave this round to Marquez and other professional boxing analysts, even ledermen gave round 8 to pacman), 9 and 12 won by Pacquiao. While Marquez won rounds 2, 5, 7 or 8 depending on who’s judging it, 10 and 11 and this is the same score the other judge gave pacquiao 116-112. You win a round by the number of punches landed not how hard your punches are, even jab counts and that was how ali won some of his fights…….the fight was close but not close enough to declare the fight a draw……I gave this one to Manny and win is win wether by TKO or points!

  • franklyn flores

    Pisngi palang ni Pacman may abs na

  • Anonymous

    There are two sides of an opinion just like our two armpits.  I hope in the animated exchange, both armpits don’t smell sour.

    Let’s respect the decision as a lot of science went into it executed by the judges, the boxing commission and the referee.  They do it round per round and don’t look back each time but on the current round.

    We cannot fault both fighters but only appreciate they both gave their utmost at that time even if both trained very hard.  Manny wasn’t the same as in his previous fights.  Why so?  Maybe the distractions, the cramps or the undercard with Jinkee and Alex Ariza days before the fight…maybe his other activities too.

    Juan did improved a lot in this fight.  Yes, he ought to be emotional as he’s been at it since 2008.

    A decision has been made and we just have to respect it.  Yes, it was very slim.  That’s boxing, guys.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XO4C5N2KEQZ6D2Q7FGTWB4TCZ4 hammie

    Mas guapo kasi si Alex Si Pacman mukhang ex convict.

  • Anonymous

    Marquez and his handlers robbed the crowd by deciding not to throw any more punches in the last two rounds having wrongly assumed that they won the fight. Manny did the right thing by not making any silly mistake knowing that he is the defending champion and must be beaten convincingly by the challenger.
    Bob Arum should keep his mouth shut about a fourth fight because it sounded like he had something sinister planned even before the first blows were landed. The image of boxing that Manny singlehandedly tried to revived is again put into question.

  • Anonymous

    Lupang Hinirang po ang tama hindi Bayang Magiliw.. cheers!

  • Anonymous

    Wala na tapos na ang laban panalo na si Pacquiao huag ka na humirit. Manahimik ka na lang.

  • Anonymous

    Eh ikaw ano sa palagay mo. Ang palagay ko sa iyon ay mukha ka hampas lupa.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_47LXGDQE3F3WMYSZ5HI3UXGEVM Henry

    correct ka, watch again you will see pacman is the win.

  • http://twitter.com/BaiFault Joeker

    ang pag-analisa mo sa away ni Pacman ay nagsasabi ng totoo kung tagasaan kang talaga. husayan mo pa bai…    lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ODCS4XJ4IBBIQL3CLWSBU2UYXE Mark anthony

    joeker, u so joker, ikaw lng pinoy na tarantado, kapwa pinoy tinudas mo klao panalo si pacman, bulag kaba.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QTUUMSWGPUKTL7BKZWIOO7SNTM Manuel Fernandez

    Pacquiao only pulled out rounds 10 and 11…the other rounds he got beaten all the way looking silly and miserable. But, he is a money maker for Arum and HBO PPV, than Marquez. So there you have the outcome and the planning to fight Monkey Mayweather.

  • Victor H. Rodriguez

    Paquiao knew well that he had lost the run and was cornered in his corner, at no time raised his hands as usual when he wins, he knew he had lost, in this not only Marquez loses the fight, but loses credibility boxing world .. .

    Paquiao’s attitude to be said it all … perderdor

    This is to reflect ..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GQSYLBEZONUCHBX73PYVFAAEPE james

    marquez panalo? nakashot ba kayo nung nanood..palibhasa isang beses lang kayo manood ng boxing akala nyo magaling pa kau sa judge na trabaho nila un..malinis Pacman won!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGUVDEUJTH47NXLOEMCOSCMGIU Anonymous

    Matulog na tayo bukas naman.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOBNUPUJSZVZX2CWCCEN63BKNA Ron

    las vegas is a mafia state. they can choose whoever  they want to win as long as it brings money to their economy. we all know pacquiao is one of their gambling assets.

  • Anonymous

    Dana, ikaw ba si Lolit Solis? puro tsismis ang mga sinasabi mo dito…Hindi naman totoo na nag-away si Ariza at Michael Kooncz……Mag kaibigan iyan eh. Yun kay Jinky, napaka walang hiya mo naman para sabihin na si Jinky ay lukaret…..hindi ganun babae si jinky. cguro si Dr. Bello ang tinutukoy mo… maniniwala pa ako dun.

  • Anonymous

    Dana, Lintik ka, tsismosa ka talaga…buysit ka !

  • Anonymous

    Pacquiao clearly won that fight, GET OVER IT !  Ofcourse if you’re the type of person who can’t handle the truth like Marquez, you always try to deny that you’re a loser in life. Marquez is known  as a CRY BABY ,Marquez should fire that idiot trainer of his , Nacho who told him in the middle of the fight that he’s winning..that’s why Maquez instead of going for a knock out he play the SAFE MODE. It’s clear too that Marquez has no plan to attack Pacquiao, he just got lucky with his counter  punch everytime Pacquiao attacked him.

  • Anonymous

    pacman won. please watch the replay ROUND BY ROUND. help yourselves.

  • Anonymous

    PACMAN is the current King of the boxing. Marquez was the challenger. If Marquez wants to claim that he is better than the King, then he should have fough well and knock out or knock down tge king, even for one instanc only. Since, Marquez was not able to knock down or knock out PACMAN, that means he is not better than PACMAN. Manny Pacquaio remains still the best of teh boxer on Earth. For Marquez? He is but a challenger that proves nothing in a three time fight.

  • Anonymous

    You do not throw accusations out there that you’ve been robbed second or third time around because Marquez himself went to the ring and fought Pacman. You need to respect the judge’s decision, otherwise, even your own victories will be put in doubt, that all the fight he had are rigged too whether it is a knockdown or through unanimous decision.

    All three fights are obviously evenly matched. There is really no point in having a fourth fight if Marquez won’t respect the judge’s decisions and the organization he belongs to.

    Pacman, Roach and Bob Arum should move on to a Mayweather fight.

    If they are contemplating for a 4th fight with Marquez, this should be done after the Mayweather fight. And Marquez must apologize to Pacman, to the boxing oprganization, to the judges for the fight to happen.

    Boxing is about “attacking the opponent”. Marquez never prove he is a boxer. He only showed us that he is a counterpuncher: you punch, I punch. If Pacman did not punch him, he won’t punch. This is the reason why Pacman won the judges’ decision because at the end of the last bell, the decision is based on who got the most punch landed. And as we all know now, it was Pacman.

    Congratulation, Pacman.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JPTNDESPV6LZ7XFLVRKTDEXOOA noel

    ano ba naman ang gusto ni marquez ………mabuti nga sa late round na binanatan ni pacman si marquez eh kung mas maaga lalo lang naging kawawa si marquez kita mo yong kanan mata ni marquez putok na saman talang si pacman headbutt ni marquez tapos sya pa ang may ganang magsabi na dinaya sya eh sya itong maday at
    madumi mag laro…………….

  • Anonymous

    Dear Jinkee and Manny, 
    I have nothing against the boxer Pacman Pacquiao, been giving him an “A” rating since “BLOW BY BLOW” days, but as a politician he is not! SO an “F” he deserves. Imagine Pacman starting on an “F”, just don’t say it aloud. Watched the CNN interview? Yes, like that meteorite tattoo crushing back to earth. See how politics will ruin this boxer’s exceptional career and legacy this time. Take away this boxer’s money, then yoooooou  will see ALL kinds of PERASITES scampering away. Not everyone who calls him champ means it.

    DO NOT BE LONELY AT THE TOP AND PLEASE AVOID BEING NARCISSUS and CASANOVA ALL THE SAME, STICK TO THE SIMPLE AND BASIC THINGS IN LIFE SO OUR YOUTH WILL HAVE THE BOXER AS A REAL PERSON-HERO TO LOOK UP TO. YOU ARE LARGER THAN LIFE—STRIVE MORE TO BECOME ST. PACQUIAO, NOT A “MAFIA NINONG OF THE TRAPOS!”

    “I’m terrified, petrified, mortified, stupified by you!”
    Again, I have nothing against PacMAN the boxer, just want you good people have a fruitful, productive, and decent lives ahead of you especially your children.

  • Anonymous

    talagang mga bulag cla,.pano maka kaporma c pacquiao e pag pasok nia inaapakan lagi ni marquez.first round pa lang nakita ko na ganun ginagawa.panoorin nyo uli un laban at dun kau sa paa nila tumingin bgo nyo husgahan c pacquio.ganyan din ginawa ni marquez nung 1st at 2nd fight nla.pero ngaun mas grabe.un ang sikreto ni marquez hindi magaling kundi madaya na counterpuncher

  • Anonymous

    “…Pacquiao later said he suffered cramps in the fourth and he felt “that my balance was gone.”“He was flatfooted,” Roach said after his ward felt his foot arch stiffen up…”
    Here is why, Marquez is caught cheating by stepping  on Manny’s foot several times.
    See it here http://rkmagfeelingexpert.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/juan-manuel-marquez-dirty-boxing-trick-exposed/

  • Victoria

    There are sore losers in this world. The Mexican fans are included.

  • Anonymous

    forget Juan-ma he’s history, he got his chance and blew it, playing safe and waiting for Pacman to come in so he could counter punch wont win championship, he’s the chalenger he’s supposed to be aggressive to come and get the title from the Pacman, in a close fight the judges sure to favor the aggressive fighter more so if he’s the champion,,, incidentally did you know that KFC known as America’s best chicken now has a new rival its known as MFC Mayweather Fried Chicken.

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely correct. What happened in that fight was the reverse. The champion was the aggressor and the challenger was the one just waiting. He may have thought that the championship belt will be served to him in a silver platter. No way Marquez. If ever there would be a fourth match between Manny and Marquez, the ring must be reduced to just 2 square meter so Marquez wouldn’t have much to run and be forced to fight it toe to toe with Manny.

  • Anonymous

    To those who are NOT convinced that Pacquiao won the fight, here is a breakdown of who the judges picked as the winner in each round. Judge Robert Hoyle gave 6 rounds each to Pacquiao-Marquez, judge Dave Moretti gave 7 rounds to Pacquiao and judge Glenn Trowbridge gave 8 rounds to Pacquiao. I suggest you watch the fight again and pick the winner in each round. Compare your results with the judges’ score card.

    Round              Hoyle                Moretti             Trowbridge
    ———            ————-           ————           ————–
    1                     Pacquiao           Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    2                     Pacquiao           Marquez           Pacquiao
    3                     Pacquiao           Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    4                     Marquez            Marquez           Marquez
    5                     Marquez            Marquez           Marquez
    6                     Pacquiao           Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    7                     Marquez            Marquez           Marquez
    8                     Marquez            Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    9                     Marquez            Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    10                   Marquez            Pacquiao          Pacquiao
    11                   Pacquiao           Marquez           Pacquiao
    12                   Pacquiao           Pacquiao          Marquez      

    Notice that round by round, majority or all of the judges picked Pacquiao as the winner surprisingly 9 times!!!

  • Anonymous

    Can the Marquez camp file a protest?

  • mmm choco

    pag  si Mayweather ang kalaban nya at ganoon ang style ni Pacman.. for sure 110 percent talo sya… hands down..

  • Anonymous

    Yes, they have been robbed. Marquez said he does not know what to do anymore to win on Pacquiao because even stepping on Manny’s foot more than six times(?) intentionally, he did not win. Perhaps next time he should bring the whole drug cartels goons with him. Napuri ko pa naman siya dahil stand still at kumakanta pa ng national anthem nila.

  • Anonymous

    now Marquez know that stepping on the Pacmans foot and drinking his own urine wont do against the Pacman, i guess the only remaining thing for Marquez to do to win against the pacman is to eat his own feces,,,  yuck.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z2PCS36X6RGBCS7DUDDW2M2Z7U B o N g

    Tsk tsk tsk… Kahit ilang beses nyong panoorin yung fight, si pacman pa rin ang panalo… dahil paulit-ulit nyong maririnig ang linyang…”and still, welterweight champion of the world…Manny Pacman Pacquiao”….LOL hindi na mababago yan sa replay!!! nyahahaha



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