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DID it mean Juan Manuel Marquez was right in claiming Manny Pacquiao had never beaten him in all their three previous fights?

Who’s to blame?

Manny Pacquiao rose from the canvas and readily pointed at himself.

He said he became too confident.

Mayor Alfredo Lim, turning instant expert, said it was all a result of a lucky punch.

No, cried a young broadcaster, close-in observer inside Team Pacquiao, it was no lucky punch.

Manny was led into a trap.

Did he allow himself to be trapped?

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Here are postfight views sent to this reporter immediately after Pacquiao was stopped by Marquez:

GERRY MAYOR, Lipa City: “Unbelievable how he rose, unbelievable how he fell. It should help if Pacquiao could study that lesson in the Bible which says, “You cannot serve two masters—God and money—at the same time. I really pity him, will pray for him.”

Lawyer MARIANO QUINTOS, Vergara, Mandaluyong City: “I watched in shock. Pacquiao’s stunning loss to Marquez does not diminish his sterling achievements but rather enhances the Filipino’s fighting heart and nobility—traits that have been etched in granite for all time.”

Dr. JIM SANCHEZ, philanthropist: “Four months of focused, rigid training vs six weeks of uneven regimen. Both are excellent fighters. It’s a pity. What Manny needs now is support more than ever. Let’s all pray for him.”

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ANTHONY ANDALES, North Carolina, US: “He has indeed declined. But it was a very entertaining fight. Mabuhay. I love the old Manny, the original Pacific Storm.”

JUN VELASCO, Dagupan City: “Pacquiao’s fall must be due to his multiple interests, against Marquez’s rigid discipline and single-minded focus.”

JESUS GARCIA JR., Mangaldan, Pangasinan: “It was an ugly defeat. It’s mourning for the Philippines.”

JOSEPH DUMUK, San Fernando, La Union: “The difference is millions of $$$ when I said Pacman should retire then and today when so many columnists are asking MP to retire. However, Pacquiao was on a 15-fight winning streak and it would’ve been a grand exit. But now with the Bradley loss and the JMM knockout, how would retirement look?”

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Lawyer ROMULO MACALINTAL: “The Sign of the Cross was always part of Manny Pacquiao’s fights since he started his boxing career in 1995 or for almost 17 years. Making the Sign of the Cross was part of his timing and style, especially when he felt he was in trouble. Without it, he was a confused lot in the ring vs Marquez as if he wanted to make the sign but could not because of his new religion. His timing and confidence were greatly affected and he became an easy target for Marquez, a devout Catholic… In Round 6, I was saying ‘Where are you Mama Mary?’—then a second before the round ended that knockout punch answered my question.”

BERT DE GUZMAN, columnist, Balita: “Makakabalik pa kaya, you think he can come back? Remember how he got mad at you after you said Marquez had beaten him in their second fight? He also got mad at Ronnie Nathanielsz last time. His era ends, enter Donaire.”

PETER TANYAO, trader, Chinese intellectual: “It was clearly a fix, luto. How could that happen when there was only a second left—and he dropped his guard. It was a dive what with those notorious gamblers always around him.”

GORING KURIAS, former OFW: “Mas sumikat pa, he even became greater after that defeat. Laban pa, he should stay.”

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  • Danilo Mariano

    Clearly Marquez has Manny’s number. I’ve watched and replayed their previous fights many times over and the only match where I think Manny won was the first fight. Manny’s camp and Bob Arum knows this. Maybe even Manny himself knows Marquez is kontrapelo.

  • sam_aquino

    the way i see the comments of the “boxing expets” seemed to me they know boxing more than manny himself…  why don’t they try fighting marquez themselves & let them find out if they can apply what they have talking???  it’s easier said than done…

    there will only one winner…  only this time, it was marquez who came out the better man…  

    manny has given pinoys the honor no one has ever did… he put the philippine map on the boxing world…  at his time of defeat, let us not be rude to him…  we have to support him no matter what…  with one loss, it will not diminish his reputation in boxing history…  

    the guy still deserves some RESPECT…  after all, for much of pinoys (& some other nationalities as well), manny pacquiao is still a hero…  

    i have no doubt, HE will be back!!!

  • The Truth

    It’s a blessing in disguise.

    If Manny won by either a decision or a KO, what do you think will be the reaction of media, fans and general public observer worldwide? Most likely, it’s expected or jmm was cheated;

    If Marquez won by a decision, it was given to him by the judges as payback.

    If any of the above happen, the Pacquiao buzz will definitely be not the same as what’s happening now. In fact, the marketability of Pacquiao suddenly comes alive again, similar to when he started the run. The “We Will Rise Again” statement is magnificent! I can’t wait on how this statement will come into reality, how about you?

    Everybody knows that Pacquiao is winning, jmm is battered to the bone and then came, the Hail Mary punch. Amen said by jmm.

  • EdsonArantesDoNascimiento

    If  Pacquiao’s plan/goal is to fight again next year by april,many relevant&evidential factors comes into play,for him to be a winner again!History will bare this questions (with a yes or no answer only).Will he run for congressional-reelection next year,, campaign not only for his reelection but also for his wife and other family (Pacquiao Political dynasty?) members?Will he continue with his showbiz activities?Will he continue to be a (self-procalimed)pastor &Bible-thumper?Will he continue to surround himself with gamblers&sycophants sucking-up to him and sucking him dry?If the answers to all these questions,is yes,he will continue to loose,and if ( a big “if”,knowing manny having a history of not listening w/c dinamita marquez exploited,I heard him say on radio DZBB prior to the fight,”Manny doesn’t listen to his corner,”w/c the dinamita camp used as a weapon to defeat the pacman! If the answers to all the above is no,I’m sure he will win again! Simply put,he must re-mold himself again to be a full-time boxer,and exorcised the label,part-time boxer!

  • melbourne333

    One thing about Mercito ” No Speed” Gesta. Will somebody give him a laptop? It looks like
    he did not watch Vasquez on youtube on his previous fights. Parang may bolang bakal ang paa!

    • Philcor

      si Gesta ay isang poste ng MERALCO. Nakatayo lang at hindi gumagalaw…

  • melbourne333

    In victory and defeat, Pacman will always be a winner. He just lost and look at at the columns 
    conjuring a fifth fight. Bob Arum says the fifth fight will be the biggest not the Mayweather fight.
    All of a sudden everybody became a boxing analyst. Even me.

    It must be clearly pointed-out that the decision to retire is entirely up to the boxer himself.
    He is the one doing the fighting in the ring. All of us are mere spectators. 

    There are several considerations however we must take into account on this decision.
    One is health and safety risks. Second, the financial status and position. Then thirdly, 
    the legacy.

    i understand that Manny has undergone medical tests right after he lost. Then right after 
    arrival he went to Cardinal Santos Hospital. We can only wait for the tests to come out.

    Nobody knows exactly what is their financial and cash flow position right now. Only the couple
    will be in the know. Remember the lure money has brought out retired fighters to make a comeback even with defeat and age staring right in their faces. Tyson, Ali, Duran, Leonard and so the long list goes on. 

    Every Filipino right now wants a fairy tale ending to the story. And that is a happy ending.
    Why even my Vietnamese neighbour here is asking if there is going to be a quintology?
    Other people around the world have embraced Pacman as their hero. Maybe the rags to riches,
    his killers instinct in the ring and very humble demeanor in real life, generosity to the downtrodden
    and poor. A combination and harmony of these characteristics. Maybe it came at a time when Filipinos are hungry for a HERO and in their midst are mostly corrupt and shoddy politicians.

    Whatever the outcome we will know and so the story continues to unravel. A happy or a tragic ending?

  • captainramius

    If I got it right…. Manny arrival statement said he got hit “with a lucky punch ”  which is a conflicting position he had taken on this tragedy.  He had admitted Marquez beat him fair and square … now he is lucky to win because of that lucky punch.  Dito lang sa Pinas yong line na yon being discussed with its acceptable as this is his country…. we need something to fall on and deny the real fact… he got kayoed by a stronger and better prepared opponent.

    Outside of the PHILIPPINES  , in the boxing world… its now being called the Perfect Punch and is becoming part of boxing history ( most brutal boxing knockouts , along with Marciano – Walcott, Duran – Hearns, Foreman -Frazier 1 etc )

    Lucky punch…. so the first right hand  that knock him down was also lucky ? 

    2 straight defeats… perhaps another one… or 3 straight defeats he will wake up to his senses and our media stop making up the hype and dose him with reality,.. Your time is up there is nothing dishonorable in retiring .

  • Jonnes

    Add on to Romy Macalintal’s comment. Pacquiao will never forget the date. It was Immaculate Conception Day – December 8.

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