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Marquez balks at Pacquiao tiff

‘There’s no point doing a 5th fight’


Even the lure of his biggest paycheck ever won’t make Juan Manuel Marquez  fight Manny Pacquiao again.

Less than two months after pulling off a brutal sixth-round knockout of Pacquiao in their fourth bout last Dec. 8, Marquez is reportedly hesitant to risk his newfound reputation by facing the eight-division world champ anew.

Shrugging off the so-called warrior mentality of Mexican boxers, Marquez told BoxingScene.com he won’t give Pacquiao a chance to get back at him, conveniently ignoring the fact that the Filipino superstar had given him the opportunity for a rematch three times before.

Their first bout in 2004, which saw Pacquiao knock down Marquez thrice in the first round, ended in a draw only because a judge’s scoring error deprived Pacquiao of a hairline victory.

The rematch in 2008 produced a split decision win for Pacquiao while Pacquiao-Marquez 3 in 2011 saw the Filipino prevailing by majority decision.

Despite earlier pronouncements by his promoter, Fernando Beltran, that his ward would return the favor by agreeing to a fifth fight, Marquez inexplicably changed his mind.

“I think, for me, there is no point [in a fifth fight],” Marquez told the boxing website. “We already achieved the desired result. Then why do it?

“I also asked several people, several friends that I have around me and they told me not to do it, that there is no point in a fifth fight. I said before the fourth fight that no matter how this fight ends, there cannot be a fifth.”

Beltran, who had earlier agreed with Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum, to stage Pacquiao-Marquez 5 in September in Mexico, offered a different view.

Interviewed by ESPN Deportes, Beltran said Mexican fight fans should have a hand in Marquez’s decision.

“If the people want it, we will give the opportunity (for a rematch) to Manny,” Beltran said.

Beltran also told Esto, a Mexican sports daily, that their “priority is not to fight Pacquiao.”

Marquez stands to earn much less if he opts to fight an opponent other than Pacquiao, according to boxing pundits.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJ2F6G7J2MA74J4KE7YZSQ5Z4Y Wendell

    Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez V Will Feature Strict PED Testing

    By Alex Groberman, Wed, January 30, 2013 | Opposing Views
    Juan Manuel Marquez earned a very impressive victory over Manny Pacquiao this past December. Whereas Pacquiao picked up his two wins over Marquez by way of controversial decisions and questionable scoring, Marquez got his in the only manner which does not lend itself to questioning after the fact. A knockout is a knockout. There can’t be any arguments about the validity or legitimacy of a knockout.



    Before his last fight even happened, Marquez was forced to confront questions regarding how precisely at age 39 he was suddenly in the best shape of his life. Mind you, he didn’t have to fend these inquiries off from bloggers and TV provocateurs; Freddie Roach, one of the most respected men in all of boxing, famously said in an interview: “If [his body] is natural, I will kiss his a**. [Marquez] has gotten bigger and gained weight – it throws up a red flag. I’ve been accused so many times of my fighters being on steroids (that) I hate to accuse other people. But it is part of our life, part of the world we live in.”

    The accusations, while not based off anything more than the eye test, were there for a reason. It wasn’t just that Marquez suddenly had more strength and such a sculpted physique, it was also about who helped him attain both. His new association with Angel Guillermo “Memo” Heredia, an admitted PED peddler, raised a lot of red flags. And while Marquez has consistently denied doing anything wrong, natural human reasoning suggests that if you suddenly become stronger and bigger after linking up with a guy who provides illicit materials that help you do just that – maybe there is a connection there.

    For his part, Marquez has denied the charges.

    “You can say anything you want, but [if] you don’t have any proof, it means nothing,” Marquez told SI com (Sports Illustrated). “I told them I am willing to take any exam they want. Let’s go together, we’ll do it together.”

    To Marquez’s credit, he did take the tests. And those tests did come back clean. Of course, as we have learned over the years, the tests conducted don’t test for everything. Something athletes are all too aware of.

    “As far as people thinking I am taking steroids? I would take the test. Let them take my blood,” the 39-year-old said in another interview. “I don’t care. [I would do it] just to shut everybody up. Of course my fight tests have always been clean. I don’t know how those rumors get started”

    All of which leads us to this: inevitably, Pacquiao’s team will enforce much stricter PED testing guidelines this time. On the last go-round they saw Marquez get bigger and stronger, but they still cockily believed they would beat him anyway. Following the events that took place last December – they know better now.

    When negotiations officially begin for a fifth bout, expect for testing to supplant purse split as the big topic of interest.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJ2F6G7J2MA74J4KE7YZSQ5Z4Y Wendell

    Daring to Ask the PED Question

    By Bill Simmons on February 1, 2013 | Grantland
    □ My favorite recent look-the-other-way example: Juan Manuel Marquez couldn’t knock down Manny Pacquiao for 36 solid rounds over three of their fights. Before their third fight, the 39-year-old Marquez aligned himself with a disgraced strength-and-conditioning coach named Angel Heredia (Google his name and PEDs; it’s a fun 10 minutes), *arrived in Vegas so ripped that he weighed in four pounds under the 147-pound limit, knocked Pacquiao down early with a vicious power punch, then coldcocked him a few rounds later with one of the single greatest knockout punches ever thrown. What did we do? We bought the fight, gathered in our living rooms. We oohed and aahed, tweeted our disbelief and **forwarded the YouTube clip around. And when Marquez passed the bogus post-fight drug test — for the record, Keith Richards in 1978 after a night at Studio 54 could pass one of boxing’s drug tests — everyone let the moment go.

    Know this: Every boxing fan I know believes that Marquez enhanced his chances that night. …

    □ I had planned on writing about PED profiling in my deleted mailbag answer about Peterson, if only because it’s so unfair that certain athletes (say, Marquez and A-Rod) make it impossible for something like Peterson’s absolutely incredible comeback to happen without people wondering,
    “Hmmmmmmmm.” We’ve been burned too many times by the words “absolutely incredible.” Now we’re here. So we wondered. And kept wondering. I probably received 700 “Do you think Peterson is doing this legitimately?” e-mails in November and December. Some were funny, some were thoughtful, some were crazy. All of them made me think.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJ2F6G7J2MA74J4KE7YZSQ5Z4Y Wendell

    Sports in 2012: The bad and the ugly
    By CBC | CBC – Fri, 21 Dec, 2012 | Yahoo! News Canada
    □ As ever in modern sports, eye-popping performances from men and women of all ages raised suspicion of improper means. There was 16-year-old Chinese girl Ye Shiwen winning two Olympic gold medals in the pool, and boxer Juan Manuel Marquez (working with former track and field PED peddler Angel Heredia) discovering the fountain of power at 39, blasting Manny Pacquiao into unconsciousness when he hadn’t knocked his rival down in three previous 12-round bouts.

    TO READ MORE, go to Yahoo! News Canada website.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJ2F6G7J2MA74J4KE7YZSQ5Z4Y Wendell

    Juan Manuel Marquez Says He’s a Clean Fighter, Annoyed by PEDs Speculation

    by Robert Littal | Posted on Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 | BlackSportsOnline

    **Marquez can be annoyed all he likes, but there are valid reasons why people would be suspicious. I have no doubt his tests will come back clean because they didn’t do Olympic Style Random Drug Testing for this fight. They just collected urine before and after, so it would be easy to come off any PEDs he was taking in preparation for the fight and still test clean.

    □ JUST USING COMMON SENSE, the older you get as a boxer your skills and power decrease. Very rarely do you see in boxing someone who is considered a good, but not great puncher become a one punch knockout artist overnight.

    EVEN MORE RARE is to see someone become a one punch knockout artist when they are moving up in weight at 39 years old, they knock out someone who hasn’t been KOed in 17 years and who they personally hadn’t even knocked down in 36 rounds of boxing.

    □ THE #1 REASON FOR THE SPECULATION besides the drastic body change was the fact that Marquez’s strength and conditioning coach is BALCO snitch Angel Hernandez. Hernandez once bragged about having over 20 undetectable steroids in his possession. Now, he says he is a changed man and trains athletes the proper way.

    **MARQUEZ CAN BE ANNOYED ALL HE LIKES, but there are valid reasons why people would be suspicious. I have no doubt his tests will come back clean because they didn’t do Olympic Style Random Drug Testing for this fight. They just collected urine before and after, so it would be easy to come off any PEDs he was taking in preparation for the fight and still test clean.

    I DON’T KNOW WHAT MARQUEZ WAS DOING, but whatever it was in the last two fights
    against Pacquiao he has shown increase strength to the point that his KO of Pacquiao spawned a million Memes (which you can see here). Was it hard work or something else? Only Marquez knows the truth.

    TO READ MORE, go to blacksportsonline(dot)com.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJ2F6G7J2MA74J4KE7YZSQ5Z4Y Wendell

    Originally posted by tlarry, Feb. 6, 2013 at Boxing Scene forum (Thread: Marquez is Firm: I’m Not Interested, I Don’t Owe Pacquiao)

    Marquez Is Drunk; Pacquiao GAVE Him 4 Shots…What A Punk

    He “acheived the desired result”…. Exactly, he would have begged and begged, and begged Pacquiao for as many fight as he could get out of him for just ONE WIN…. that’s the desired results. What a deadbeat. He was getting busted up, beaten, behind on all three score cards, until he caught Pac with one bomb, one second left in the round. It’s funny how soon he forgets how often he kept bringing up how much he wanted to fight Pacquio; he did it after each of the three previous fights. Each time, Pacquiao accomodated with another fight. JMM didnt like the result, he begged for another fight. Didn’t like that result, pleaded for another fight. Catches Pac with one bomb, then it’s “I am firm. I see no reason why I need to fight Pacquiao again… I achieved the result I looked for”…. What, a lucky knock out? Said he “earned the right to fight Pacquiao”…. REALLY? fighting, dominating who? Mayweather stopped you. You ducked Erik Morales. You wouldn’t even fight Gesta last July when offered to you, as you claimed you wanted a southpaw. You wouldn’t fight Guerrero. You wouldn’t fight Maidana. JMM… did you beat anyone that Pacquiao beat also, EARNING the right to fight Manny”…. OR was it just the best money out there for Pacquiao. You beat nobody, you fought nobody. You wouldn’t fight Cotto, you wouldn’t fight Rios. YOU FOUGHT NOBODY. YOU BECAME A RICH MEXICAN, BECAUSE MANNY PACQUIAO GAVE YOU THE 4 OF THE 5 BEST PAYDAYS OF YOUR LIFE, and you claim you owe him no rematch. YOU KNOW that fight was not headed in the direction you wanted, you weren’t going to make it 12 rounds, and you got your Hail Mary, one punch out of nowhere lottery ticket. If you never fight Pacquiao again, then Erik Morales has always been right; you’re one big *****.

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